[1.1.1.1] WB Warlord - Callagadra/Ravager/Mogdrogen & SR 89/Cru 170 (0 buffs, 0 banners)

To be honest, Experience from 50 tries + 100% concentration (Especially Calla Phase 2) => just 95% win rate => that’s why I love the design of GD

Ok, so you can beat calla 95% of the time without moving at all as long as you concentrate?

Am I misunderstanding this?

EDIT: No one actually gives a flying shit if the answer is ‘no.’ But if it is, I would strongly recommend you editing your post so that players who might want to spend the time needed to level/farm for this character will know exactly what to expect.

Yup !

Use Menhir Bastion => You can go to 97-98% winrate, but DPS loss and AOE loss from Doom (must have for SR > 85 kiting Grava)

Firstly, let me apologize if it seems like I’m being a twat and attacking you. I really am not, I’m just trying to understand this character, and I understand things by asking questions. No offence intended whatsoever.

So now you’ve really piqued my curiosity.

When you say concentrate…what are you concentrating on? For the life of me, this looks like a very straight forward character?

War cry, charge RF, slap enemies with cadence, etc. etc.

Can you tell me what mad_lee is doing wrong (edited) in his video?

^Because he also couldn’t facetank calla.

Perhaps you should tell players the tips and tricks you use so they can replicate the same results should they level this character

Why dont you try Warlord file in reality ?

Can you tell me what mad_lee is doing wrong (edited) in his video?

I’ve already told him

Perhaps you should tell players the tips and tricks you use so they can replicate the same results should they level this character

This expansion shows tremendous effort of Devs, to respect them => just practice !

True. One can always practice more.

As for testing the character - I have no interest in warlords. I think the class needs adjustments, and I personally don’t want to support this whole warlord craze right now.

If I ever change my mind, I’ll let you know.

Thanks for helping me understand better. :slight_smile:

Every builds can be nerfed anytime, so have fun when possible :slight_smile:

I don’t do OP builds :stuck_out_tongue:

I always try to build characters which aren’t meta, and to try and make them perform as well as those builds which are meta.

And there have been times I’ve been successful in making weird things BECOME meta. Like phantasmal blades. :rolleyes:

It’s not OP to me ! Especially Cru 170 killtime

Jack-of-all-trades build + Glass cannon build => that’s OP build !

No fun playing broken builds, but it is good that some people shows us and devs what is too OP so that we can achieve balance.

I think the massive influx of WL posts/requests are already indicative of that.

As for this:

It’s not OP to me ! Especially Cru 170 killtime!

It’s because, like others have pointed out, the build isn’t sufficiently min/maxed.

Calla, SR > 85 , remember ?

Hey there op friend! :slight_smile:

I gotta apologize for my initial reaction. That Ugdenbog Leather on the helmet got to me. But then I looked into your gt again and watched all your vids. I still think your build can be way faster and still facetank everything. But it cannot be left unsaid that this is some serious achievement, even on a warlord.

Full Mog facetank with 83% max lightning res - I don’t know how you did it but I could see from the vid you must have tried many times. You were low like 20 times throughout the fight, and for some reason he didn’t debuff you all that often (can see from the colorful debuff icon that wasn’t there as often as it should). Maybe you know why that is?

Calladagra doesn’t need so much pierce and bleed res. She’s got 25 reduction to all res and one of her pets has -18% phys. That nasty Firewave with 24% reduced is only for 2s. You should consistently eat the damage that follows with your shield. Anyways, it’s % reduced so stacking 10% res overcap is actualy worth 2.4% with that debuff.

You overplay chaos res, imo. Most volatile res are aether (cause of Bitchasteria and Alex) and vitality (Zantarin’s CoF is like -50% iirc). Lightning, too, but you got that covered nicely for Mog. Thing with chaos res is that no overcap will save you from Grava’s null and fumble. From this guy you gotta blink out. His dmg attacks aren’t that dangerous per se.

But we can theorize all day. This is what I did with your build and I managed to squeeze 100% block recovery, 12% more block chance, 200da, 5k more weapon dmg, 10 attack speed while (probably) maintaining your res integrity and facetankability. Seal of Blades on the shield, as I said, does nothing for your sustain as components and augments on S&B only apply to the given hand (just like dualwielding). But this SS rune should give you an extra heal every 4s. Don’t forget about da shreds before you frown at the oa. Thanks for giving me a chance for some good ol’ tweaking and and again I commend you on the achievement. I’d be glad if you tested my spec.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/JVlJBmpN

@ya_ switch place of spellscourge plating and ugdenbog leather on belt <-> boots for some more armor

Yup, 4 times (no Ultos gem because we need Shattered Realm Ward for 3% All max Res for SR, no buffs Cru 170)

From post #1

  • Kill Avatar of Mogdrogen (no pots, no clusters, no Ultos gem)

Not Facetank & kill , as you can see 2m24 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo4fy_4HzHY&feature=youtu.be&t=143, 3m16 : https://youtu.be/mo4fy_4HzHY?t=194 , 3m57 : https://youtu.be/mo4fy_4HzHY?t=236

When he’s alone, not enough ADCTH to tank him, little kiting (0.5-1s) will not hurt, wait for his mobs and continue

and for some reason he didn’t debuff you all that often (can see from the colorful debuff icon that wasn’t there as often as it should). Maybe you know why that is?

It depends, phase 2 (50% HP ) is more often, phase 1 sometimes First 5s , 15s, 35s, …

Calladagra doesn’t need so much pierce and bleed res. She’s got 25 reduction to all res and one of her pets has -18% phys. That nasty Firewave with 24% reduced is only for 2s. You should consistently eat the damage that follows with your shield. Anyways, it’s % reduced so stacking 10% res overcap is actualy worth 2.4% with that debuff.

You overplay chaos res, imo. Most volatile res are aether (cause of Bitchasteria and Alex) and vitality (Zantarin’s CoF is like -50% iirc). Lightning, too, but you got that covered nicely for Mog. Thing with chaos res is that no overcap will save you from Grava’s null and fumble. From this guy you gotta blink out. His dmg attacks aren’t that dangerous per se.

But we can theorize all day. This is what I did with your build and I managed to squeeze 100% block recovery, 12% more block chance, 200da, 5k more weapon dmg, 10 attack speed while (probably) maintaining your res integrity and facetankability. Seal of Blades on the shield, as I said, does nothing for your sustain as components and augments on S&B only apply to the given hand (just like dualwielding). But this SS rune should give you an extra heal every 4s. Don’t forget about da shreds before you frown at the oa. Thanks for giving me a chance for some good ol’ tweaking and and again I commend you on the achievement. I’d be glad if you tested my spec.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/JVlJBmpN

Do all things what you believe , fight Calla & SR > 85 and show us your results => make numbers shine in reality, dont let them control you => glad to see it

You realize that ya_ has done all that yes?

No one who’s commenting here wants to play ‘Who’s got the bigger dick.’

These are suggestions, and nothing more. Try them out, or don’t - you decide, but I would strongly recommend the former.

Because that would be beneficial to everyone. If you are wrong, you learn. If you are right, you teach.

It’s that simple.

EDIT: Per your request -

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82771

My purpose is not “to compare to someone” , “mine is better” thing , it’s “fun” thing when you make a lot of attempts, practicing thing

I’m glad we agree that competition in this regard is meaningless.

But what use is practice without experimentation?

Einstein defined insanity to be trying the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.

These suggestions humbly offered to you by some of the best theorycrafters in our community are opportunities for you to do just that - to experiment.

I could kill Calla with this spec
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqJoL5N
(no potions or shit, well health potion but that’s about it)

85% block chance for 4.4k dmg and 100% recov.

But I had to kite 4-5 times during his/her last 25% hp (when I had both ghoul, menhir will and health pot)

pics

Good start !

More armor ? More OA ? More AS ?

From my exp, armor & ADCTH are more important than Block chance, block recovery, blocked damage