If Crate started removing everything there’s too much mumbling about…
That is not true. There are builds like Runebinder, Venomblade, etc, which got no business in naked Crucible. Possible to clear, ofc, but not really to farm unless to really sell their souls for defense.
DA meta was over long ago. It’s not a recent thing.
That’s not true. Meta was 3+1 for the longest time. It was based on the principle of tribute sustainability. That principle was slightly compromised in 4+3 now as you come out 1 tribute short after 3 runs. 4+1 was never a thing - outside exotic concepts that couldn’t sustain energy otherwise - because you come out 5 tributes short meaning you gotta do 1-10 almost every run.
Sure but a standard was created in order to compare and discuss builds. That standard was based on a principle that just happens to accommodate for legit players, and it stuck despite 99.9% legit players can never dream of sub-5. It doesn’t change the fact that such a standard is needed.
This is also why this discussion continues. If T1 beacons are made useless, ppl will have a hard time trying to keep using beacons at all because of tribute sustainability.
Very true, therefor i think tributes should server a different purpose that actually helps a player progress with his build rather than just creating additional circumstances for a build to function.
Imo speaking about Crucible buffed I tried my beginners builds and I can’t beat 170. Even Dark One without other legendary gear can’t do it. And that’s with buufs+banners and vitality build and me as experienced player.
Unbuffed will be curse to most builds and players. I agree such drastic change will need massive balancing, doubt it’s gonna happen at this point of development, no matter what players will say.
That was way before they started posting builds. But every Crucible player did it and unless you’re Spellbinder it’s almost impossible to beat it without cheesing it to the point nothing hits you. Fumble, debuffs and bigger damage. Hell even in early Crucible you can be stripped by Arcane heroes. So Crucible have gone long way to allow such diversity as now…
Well there are two ways of balancing the thing. Either devs tone down the enemies in Crucible, either they take a decent build that can do naked consistently if piloted properly, check the times in which it can do the full run, and further adapt the other sets, skills, etc. to that. I think the first way is the easiest one ofc. and further based on that they can buff or nerf other builds that are over or underperforming. Doing this, not only that the balance will be 100% objective, but also the run will be 100% build and player skill, not other 3rd party dependencies (buffs, banners, beacons).
It’s a viable option as well as Zantarin shoulders. It’s just that belgo ring has overwhelming stats for the build.
Not to mention it’s much easier to farm Chosen Epaulets.
