[] Expelliarmus! 5:20m Crucible 150-170, SR 75-76 facetank PRM Mage Hunter[c+][sr+][vid]

And thank goodness! :smile:

PRM can be used for leveling but most damage comes from high nodes and PRM is point hungry skill, so not the most efficient way to level but not that bad. Also is pretty cool visually.


So I was checking out the new patch notes and notice that Cindertouch fire to lightning is gone now. Do you guys think there a better alternative for gloves with this change? I did a SR 65-66 easily without any deaths, but the build is noticeably slower than before. Not build breaking or anything, but slower than before for sure. I’m sure I could go higher but I have found 65-66 to be my personal sweet spot for difficulty to loot ratio. I haven’t done any crucible runs yet, I tend to prefer SR but I would imagine it to be about the same, a bit slower but still very solid overall.

I have been looking to see if there is any way to pick up the conversion elsewhere but have only been able to find it on a helm which is obviously a no-go due to needing the weapon% from spellgaze. Unless I’m overlooking something it seems like these would still be the best gloves for the build but just curious if anyone else playing this build has any different suggestions. Maybe a strong MI?


Spellgaze is actually used for its adtch mod - not weapon damage. Its weapon damage is overall insignificant addition to PRM’s damage.

There are no good gloves alternatives unfortunately. You can go Dawnshard chest and somehow try to compensate for the loss of all the res and phys res.

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Thanks for clarifying that! I had my thoughts completely backwards on the helm then. I guess this is why I don’t post builds, haha. It is a little disappointing that the build was nerfed a little since it is my favorite character but I guess it could have been worse. Thank you both so much for the quick replies!

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Hey @mad_lee, I was really stoked to see the change to Invoker’s Blaze in the hotfix patch (and a huge ty to Z for listening). Does this change your build at all? I’m now showing virtually equal fire/lightning damage to PRM, does it make sense to try and run it as a hybrid now?

@xMaverickx, here you go Update

That means it’s time to update this old classics! Build is competitive once again.


Amazing. I love this build so much. A caster that handles like a ranged AA, which suits my playstyle much better (I hate casters lol). Seriously, Blizzard could only dream of having a Wizard like this. Can we just consider this build done and never to be touched by Z again?

Those green shoulders though lol :open_mouth:

Just get those shoulders with hp and OA. Those rolls are far from optimal. You probably have tonns of them stashed after farming Shards. :slight_smile:

I have a bad secret to admit. I finally GD stashed. I know I know…

Have to admit it’s taken some fun out of the game for me, but I still enjoy optimizing the builds I play and seeing what they’re capable of.

I’m just busting you bc I actually enjoyed the fact that you advertised a lot of your builds as “MI free”, and I really do like that about your stuff. The MI patch has prob changed that, but 100% purples are still my fav.

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Few patches ago I have changed my views on M.I.'s since farming them became a pretty trivial task. And honestly, Crate has overbuffed a lot of them.

If you have gd-stashed just one item, farm a legit one and delete gd-stashed one. It might make you feel a bit better :rofl:


Suggestions for applying this to a sorcerer instead of a mage hunter?

Something like this should work. It’s a quick sketch made in 10 minutes trying not to alter Mad Lee’s original gear / devotions setup too much, so it’s far from optimization, but you get the idea.

Sorcerer requires better piloting, btw, when compared to Mage Hunter.

EDIT: medal augment rune can be changed to use Displacement if you want.


I think Warlock is also a decent choice, it has higher phys res and Curse of Frailty is applied at range, though otherwise it is not as durable compared to Mage Hunter or Sorcerer. I made this before the new patch, maybe Star Pact is optimal now. https://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVAdMnl2

FYI this does seem to be working pretty well with all djnat’s suggested gear in place as a Sorcerer. I opted for Benn’jarr shoulders for better survivability even though the pair I’m rocking don’t have useful skills synergies. Still trying to dial in the skills for optimal DPS.

I am not sure if this has been asked before. I am merely curious as to why you set up three Amatok’s Breath in your hotkeys like that? I genuinely am curious.

I love the build so far, I was going for a different build but was enjoying leveling PRM too much.

Thanks for the great builds and effort you put in to posting them!

is it BAT or RAT? Bat, right? i’m a little confused because the devotions in grimtools are skilled on the rat and the text says rat.
thanks in advance

It is Rat. This build has no conversion from vitality or pierce to elemental, so Bat would be pretty inefficient in leeching health.


Hello All, so i am new to the game and i am when i looked up builds i chose this one. I made it through normal didnt start Elite till like75 cause i was just fooling around with bounties and such. Went into elite and toward the end of the difficulty i kind of hit a brick wall, i am lvl 90 and i can kill normal mobs but most elites i can only kite till mirror is up and then drop a seal hit mirror and dps for the 4 seconds then run again. Needless to say that doesnt work well in timed areas haha. Any hints on what i could be doing wrong?

Hey, man, sorry that you are experiencing difficulties. This is an endgame build, you need a beginner\leveling builds, search for those. Endgame builds are usually 95% gear dependant so without that particular gear and character level 100 there won’t be no build basically.

But post your grimtools and I will try to help based on the gear you have.

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