well ty for the link i guess , as i said … im aware its a 2h skill , thats why i asked in the first place , if its even used because its scaled so much or if its just scaling that happens to be on the items anyway thats all…
Are you asking why the build have so many item skill modifiers on Upheaval when that skill is not used?
The answer is that the build uses the Veilkeeper set which offers a ton of bonuses to Upheaval which can be very nice to 2H autoattacker builds. But this build uses the set for the bonuses it gives to skills like spectral binding, necrotic edge and reaping strike.
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yeah i thought so . same with the Amulet.
There’s a reason why i included the sentence " or is it jut randomly on many items but unsued? " in my very first post.
But your first post included some things that did not make sense like “how do we proc upheaval” and then you wrote that you know that it only procs from 2H auto-attacks.
And the phrase “scale” and so on.
This also don’t make sense, you already wrote that know that there are no skill points in upheaval. But, still you seem to ask if it used…
holy… ill repeat myself , i asked because maybe there is a possibility that somewhere a procc is happening via item or whatnot and i did overlook it ( and obviously enables it even without using a 2h ) → i’ll admit , i have 0 idea where the problem was to just say " no " → im even implying that i know how upheavel works and what it needs to trigger , all i asked was , if i overlooked something or if the scaling just happens to be on the items . thats all. i dont know why you make such a huge thing out of it.
i don’t know if you get a good feeling being like this or not , but its quite annoying and its hard for me not to lose my temper.
You asked a question that was a little confusing, because to anyone who knows the game well it’s quite obvious upheaval isn’t used. You got your answer. You can just say thanks and move on. No need to get worked up just because someone didn’t quite understand what you were asking.
it’s not uncommon a build can include using items that support an unused skill, (but it doesn’t mean the skill is enabled just having those boosters)
(player)Skills can never be used or triggered/activated if they aren’t directly used and skilled.
Simpler contra example to that is buff modifers; you don’t get inquis seal/blood of dreeg bonus without using it
Or wps example, dual wield wps like Korvaak Brand/Pyroclasm that even if you use an AA build will not trigger if you have a shield in offhand like Stronghold set. This specific skill condition must always be met, and nothing can outside circumvent/trigger it.
If you point Tremor? in Forcewave even if using a shield the skill doesn’t become spamable no matter what. If you take Kraken devo without wielding a 2h the passives are simply never applied
Also stuff like Panetti granted item proc on a shoulder/caster weapon is unrelated to our player Panetti skill or any build boosters/modifiers we might have, or Ill omen boots. Player skill are always wholly separate and their own, and we get what it says on the label.
Sole exception to the label “breaking” is stuff that directly “obviously” contradicts it where the violating criteria is itself what’s being supported, ex Stormrend 1h primal strike axe. Primal strike requires a 2h weapon slot, so by being supported on the weapon now means this specific 1h can be used with Primal Strike; but it doesnt’ magically confer 2h bonuses (Brute Force/Kraken), just PS enabling. Similar for Devastation and Spellscourge shield ofc
Otherwise skill bonuses on items are just that, unused/there to be used for a different build fulfilling the skill’s criteria.
Veilkeeper being “a” lightning or aether set just means it could potentially be used in 1h or 2h configuration, as it doesn’t make a criteria for the weapon slot; but if we want the Upheaval “stuff” utilized we then still need a 2h weap like normal (atleast until FoA new janky modifiers arrive 
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Yeah here is an example of that
The modifier to Doom Bolt on the gun only affects the Player/Class skill Doom Bolt (Occultist) and not the item skill proc on the gloves. This took noob-me a while to figure out xD
My problem is how he wrote it , and how he completly ignored that i tried to explain him that im aware of everything he’s telling me . His tone gave me to 100% the feeling he’s basicly telling me how dumb i am for asking that. I don’t take it well , if people talk with me like that.