2H vs DW or 1h+shield with melee builds?

Why is it that most people pick to DW or 1h and Shield over 2h weapons.

I get if you want to be less squishy, aren’t using a build with nightblade, or don’t want to use an item to give you the DW abilty then going 1h + shield is a logical choice.

But how come I don’t see people go 2H instead? Is the damage that much less than going DW or is the survival that bad compared to a 1h and shield it’s just not worth using 2H weapons over the other choices?

Because 2h weapons are slow and most of the damage comes from flat damage adders. Attack speed is much more important for DPS and 2h have problems capping at 200.

Both, actually. My 2H builds are in 35k DPS range and nowhere close to facetanking nemesises on ultimate w/o cheesy faction potions, not even mentioning Gladiator Crucible. On the other hand, even most exotic shield cadence builds are easily in 50k+ DPS range and are naturally more durable cuz it’s a shield.

I grew to think that only viable (gladiator crucible kind of viable) 2H builds are based around Savagery cuz free lifeleech and free phys resistance. I had avoided using Savagery because I prefer to play classes with high AOE potential, but the more I think about it the more I conclude that if I want to farm Crucible with 2H then it’s inevitably has to be Savagery. I guess I’ll create a new char today…

Ok so basically. 2H sucks in comparison to everything else?

Incorrect. It means that the only 2H build that could compare to Cadence shield/dw builds is based around Savagery. I emphasize that because non-Cadence shield builds aren’t anywhere close to Cadence ones as well.
And you can find plenty of 2H Savagery in Compendium, unlike 2H Firestrike, 2H Blade Arc, 2H Primal Strike or 2H Cadence.

I’m really not fond how going 2h costs a weapon upgrade and more or less pigeon-holes attack builds into using kraken, also lowers options by locking both hand slots. On the plus side, it doesn’t look silly and you don’t have to sacrifice a relic or medal if not using Nightblade.

Does 2h suck? No. Is it the best? No.

My warder has around 60k DPS , can top about 100k fully proc buffed. High lifesteal , 2100ish DA, max resist , 2100 ish OA 20% physical resist. Can face tank madqueen no health pots.

Requires A level gear, but I have room for improvement. But attack speed is very hard to get high. If it wasn’t so penalized, it would be easier to be complete and compete with the best, instead sacrificing to get IAS, which I prize high just because faster attack for me is faster healing.

I recall a game, I forget which, that had an accessory type item for 2h, a tassle of some sort. Would be good idea.

Maybe the ability to craft scopes (a la WoW) that give various bonuses.

In the end, everything sucks, that is not end-game content/Crucible viable.

Which is to say everything except Cadence Shield builds suck.

Which is to say the game’s balance currently sucks.

Which is to say the game currently sucks.

Play something else until if/when Crate decides to make the game enjoyable for anything not Witchblade or Commando.

I beg to differ bwc sorcerer vastly outperforms any shield build. Also S&B commando, BM or WB there is not much difference, WB being slightly ahead of remaining two but noting significant.
DW BM when it comes to shear dps output is like 2 times faster than any shield build,…I could go on like that :smiley:

Lets see how my bleeding shield Witchblade will fare, I have high hopes :slight_smile:

They’re comparable, it doesn’t outperform

I meant Cadence Physical Shield builds only

ITT:

A person who thinks BWC is a caster build.

Also, a person who thinks that a DW BM is an actual, achievable thing, barring .001%er luck/trade/hacks.

Not coincidentally, they are the same dude.

BWC is a caster.

DW BM have been shitting on the content since long, so you’re wrong on both accounts

They are comparable when single target dmg is concerned, AOE vise thus cler speed wise in main game/crucibel is outperforming.

W/E you wanted to say with that, sry, its not my fault you don’t know much about the game…

Ah yeah, i think i got into a bad habit of letting procs clear things for me :stuck_out_tongue:

Can’t say anything about crucible, the spawns flood the screen so much that my game hangs sometimes. I got to way 49 in challenger when my game crashed after that i never attempted again :cry:

So all those crazy MIs are a result of main campaign and trading :wink:

Fixed :smiley:

P.S. I just got PM from a friend that is testing BWC sorc build in crucible:

quick message to tell you that i tested the bwc sorcerer and i fucking first try 100-150, its so OP its ridiculus xD, i think the timer was arround 20 mins which is faster than WB for 1.0.0.7, definitly tier1 crucible farmer.

Still trying out different strategy to maximize the dps, maybe i will record/upload a video if i’am not lazy.

Hmm makes sense tbh. Crucible is all about POWERFUL AOE. Not just any AoE :wink: