Sorry, my bad.
@Chton Did not wanted to hijack the topic, sorry about that too.
@GeneralCach Actually it was a dw BM, but did not liked watching my HP bar flashing, so I respecced to shield. Went to Unknown Soldier, Solemn Watcher and Obleisk full, w/o Shieldmaiden. I do have jajaja’s WB build too, but somehow it lacks DA I just could not managed to get it over 2k. Always wanted to make a somehow “balanced OA/DA” char which deals dmg.
Feel free to provide input on your experience with Blademasters following playing with the latest patch. Hyperbole based on patch notes alone is irrelevant.
I started a pierce Blademaster character that I’ll be leveling up through Ultimate self-found so that I can absorb the full 1-85 experience for the playstyle rather than working off of end-game info alone. In the meantime, you can help out by sharing your own experiences.
Or you can move on (#deadgame). Whatever works for you I suppose.
Was about time to do that, tho you wont have much fun with it now 
I’m really not sure what everyone is complaining about.
I’ve just tested 3 BMs (pierce, DM, and Warborn) on a Nemsis / MI run and they still all kill quicker and more reliably than pretty much any other build I have.
Whereas some other builds that took a lot of min/maxing to be able to kill Nemesis are just no longer able to do so after the patch, even after some tweaking.
I don’t get it. Is it just because BMs aren’t so blatantly OP anymore? :eek:
(Probably)
i’m leveling a pure cunning DW BM as well along side another character. In Elite around lvl 50-55 and no issues yet either.
No offense but elite doesn’t mean anything. Its end-game we talking about here and i am sure you know that
If you don’t mind me asking, what are those other builds? and against whom did you test your BMs?
BMs had good single target they still lacked AoE, so not blatantly OP, just OP
Sry but probably you have some serious issues with your other builds.
My BM is not even among top builds I have any more.
Sure thing.
Dont expect issues until ultimate. On ultimate I hope you have some really bis gear for it or it will be ragdoled so many times it wont be even funny.
they stopped being blatantly op before 0.8.
I would have never taken my SS BM to crucible before. And now, wouldn’t dream of it.
Even CAdence Bm’s that are more tanky had 50-50 chance at most
This
If a build is good in crucible but lacks in main campaign it’s fine
If a build is good in main campaign but lacks in the crucible it’s fine
If a build is good at both then feel free to nerf it
Unfortunately 1.0.0.8 nerfs seem to be directed at “if your build is good at anything then it shouldn’t be”
It left a big loophole for DW Vitality, courtesy of corporate vitality lobbyists. SPOILER[/spoiler]
Dw vitality new DW meta
I have about 25 chars, all of which I quickly ran through Cronley / Fabius / Hidden Path. I don’t play Crucible so can’t comment on it.
The builds that suffered the most are ranged Firestrike, sorc / commando, 2h / DW. They struggled somewhat before, but more so now. It was fun and a challenge trying to make ranged FS viable against nemesis, and the nerfs to sustain have had a big impact.
Lots of other builds seem relatively unaffected…Sabo, WB, Trickster, Warder, Druid…and BM still feels the most powerful of all my chars (possibly on a par with Ultos Warder) but kills maybe a couple of seconds slower. And ppl are calling it a dead build.
I just think there’s slight lack of perspective.
I’m not gonna argue with you on that 
well even if for sure i aint a “pro” or a guru of this game, i play a lot, and a lot of builds posted around here …
first of all my pierce dw bm is basicly the full cunning one that JoV posted on forum, more or less same gear, so go check his for stats blah blah …
saying that dw pierce bm are dead is a bit over reacting imo, ill try to explain my opinion:
after update this char was the first one i checked, only checked on fabius, and once, honestly i was worried i wouldnt be able to kill him so was kinda happy i killed him and moved on to chars blah blah …
So after reading this topic, Ive just run the usuals id say: dreeg/solael/gollu/cronley and fabius (3 times) without dying, so no i cant say this char is dead, BUT
after this bit longer test i have like a weird feeling id say,
first the nerf on belgothian relic: skills are nerver up when they “should” be, but most of all even if dps is still way more than decent, playing it i was like frustrating, and worst, the char felt weak honestly, and i mean like always on the edge, struggling not to die (and i didnt test against iron maiden xD).
So considering all the gear that (specific) char needed (all those MIs damn >.<) i doubt some player will spend that much time finding gear for a result kinda meh actually.
Its kinda like pierce bm are buried 6 feet under but still alive somehow
Wait, you didn’t do this before you nerfed it? How?
With a combination of analysis, feedback and boosted test characters, as goes for most any build that was buffed or nerfed ever.
If we playtested every possible class combination from 1-85, we’d be doing nothing but playing our own game. I believe there’s an expansion people want to come out some day… 
I’am currently reworking a bit my DW BM cruci version, clear speed is equal (arround 25 mins) to a physical S&B build with less succesrate. :rolleyes:
I guess its still a solid choice for vanilla content, but no point to go DW for cruci.
If you don’t have time to properly playtest the changes, should they really be made? Your statement here is a really effective argument against the constant nerfing that removes the accomplishments of those who spend their time and money on GD…