Build Compendium X (Forgotten Gods)

It’s been almost three weeks since I began to actively work on this compendium, and I feel like it’s pretty well greased by now. For the past two weeks I’ve been doing some groundwork on improving Compendium’s uniformity, which is basically fixing formatting and stuff in your old & new submissions.

Things I’ve been doing in particular:

  1. Replaced [S&B], [S&B Melee], [S&B/Melee] and similar with [Shield Melee].
  2. Replaced [S&B Caster], [S&B/Caster] and similar with [Shield Caster].
  3. Replaced whatever you’ve been calling Forcewave builds with [2H Caster].
  4. Replaced skill abbreviations with with full names. Abbreviations aren’t allowed guys :slight_smile:
  5. Fixed typos in skill names. @omnitrio you’ve been calling Inquisitor Seal as Inquisitir Seal in your every build submission.
  6. Fixed lack of spaces where they should be. @Nery I don’t know if anyone told you already, but you’ve got a habit of not putting a space after commas and dots, e.g. Cadence,Ascension,Overguard should be Cadence, Ascension, Overguard.

Planned - Damage types. E.g. Vitality, some Vitality Decay, bit of Bleeding should be Vitality, Vitality Decay, Bleeding. If some of the damage types you’re doing are not the focus of the build then just omit them.

I don’t mean it as I won’t be accepting your submissions because of the above, but I hope you’ll make it easier for me in the future. Thank you in advance.

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@Stupid_Dragon,this is first time I noticed that you should put space before skills.In none of my submissions have done it properly :sweat:

Thanks for clarification!

No, it’s not related to Compendium. In English and most other western languages you should put a single space after dots, commas, semicolons and most other punctuation marks. This makes text easier to read.

On the subject of omitting, two quick questions:

  • Can “WPS Skills: none” be omitted? (Apologies if it’s already been clarified, it’s impossible to search for it.)
  • Can active/passive skills be omitted if they’re minor or not integral to the build, or should the lists be comprehensive?
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Btw, it would seem that one of the recent patches changed the Bysmiel’s Iris amulet’s granted skill’s name from Bysmiel’s Command to Bysmiel’s Authority.

So those will have to be changed. (Only 5 cases afaik, 4 are on my builds and 1 on Sig’s)

Btw, got an update for an already submitted build:

  • [Pet] [1.1.3.0] (g3) (c+) (sr+) The Rawr Fiend - Pet Oppressor (Maya)

    • Damage: Pets
    • Active Skills: Summon Guardian of Empyrion, Summon Blight Fiend, Reap Spirit, Summon Eldritch Talon, Call of the Grave, Bone Harvest, Sovereign
    • Passive Skills: Spectral Binding, Path of the Three, Presence of Virtue, Presence of Might (x2)
    • WPS Skills: none
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No, nothing could be omitted by current rules.

I did consider making both WPS line and some of the skills to be optional, but that was based on my idea of changing formatting to include the new “Details” tag - the idea I had to suddenly abandon (see post 364). Due to that I either had to take a few more days to think about it or keep things as is and start working on Compendium. I chose the latter.

Simply making WPS Skills: None optional isn’t happening. It would break the compendium’s visual uniformity. To compare that abandoned “Details” tag format was hiding most of the skills info under the details tag, so skipping a line or two wouldn’t had broken the uniformity. A possible solution is uniting WPS skills with passive skills.

Making some of the minor skills optional is actually debatable and I’ve been considering it (we don’t list actual passives like Brute Force or Anatomy of Murder anyway, even though they could be an important part of the build). But no decision have been taken yet.

Honestly, I do think it would be best to have a form like that:

Damage: Type 1, Type 2
Active Skills: Skill A, Skill B, Skill C, no omissions.
Passive Skills: Aura 1, Aura 2, WPS 1, WPS 2, possible omissions
Devotion Procs: Proc 1, Proc 2, Proc 3, no omissions

But I think it’s kinda late for that. I mean I was prepaired to re-format all the existing submissions myself three weeks ago, but since then the number of submitted builds had increased. I’m also not sure build makers would appreciate another of my sudden policy changes.

That would have been my preference as well.

I’d say the loss of uniformity would be minor and it wouldn’t faze submitters all that much, but I appreciate that any additional change entails a fair bit of work. Thanks for clarifying.

On a second thought, perhaps I could do it little by little. But no hard promises for now.

Would you agree to yet another submission format change to the one proposed above?

  • Yes
  • No

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NO
too much text
let’s stay activ and passiv skils
skip WPS skils
and don’t add some new text

Keep it as it is, this is just a hobby and you have worked your ass off as it is

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If you change the submission format, it will have negative impact for both sides. It will confuse the players and more importantly will create more work for you.

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To clarify, I don’t think a format update should be retroactively applied by the maintainer; it should merely apply to future submissions. Partial quality improvements are preferable to perfect consistency (and I say this from experience, for what that’s worth). Moving WPS to passives might be troublesome, that’s true, especially since the submission process is not automated.

Honestly, the main thing I’d like to see is the enucleation of “WPS skills: none” from future submissions. It’s just… so pointless. :(

Hi Dragon!

[Caster] [1.1.3.0] (g3) (c+) (sr+) (vid) Pyro 5:09. cruci 150 - 170 (Shieldbreaker) (Nandi)

Pls fix the dot after the time in the compedium. It is a small thing, but to me importatnt.THX!

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Um, checked the compendium and didn’t find that dot here. Probably I fixed it on my own at some point.

@omnitrio link counters should be fixed

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All you need to do if you submit a build with no WPS is to

  1. Mark “WPS Skill 1, WPS Skill 2, WPS Skill 3”
  2. Type “None”

in the application form template provided in the first post.

There isn’t a single build by Pareto in compendium in the first place, so I guess it’s not the issue of the build submitter but issue of the user instead.

(I do plan to submit two builds, both casters with no WPS, but that’s not all that relevant.)

Hi Dragon!

Pls add this. THX!

  • [2H melee caster] [1.1.3.0] (g3) (c+) (sr+) (vid) Winter King 6:05. cruci 150 - 170 (Infiltrator) (Nandi)

    • Damage: Cold, Frostburn
    • Active Skills: Amarasta’s Blade Burst, Pneumatic Burst, Shadow Strike, Blade Barrier, Ring of Steel, Blade Spirit, Rune of Hagarrad, Word of Renewel, Inqusitor Seal
    • Passive Skills: Veil of Shadow, Heart of the Winter King, Chilling Weapons, Forstdread Presence, Aura of Censure
    • WPS Skills: none

It is spelled “Rune of Hagarrad”

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