Chance on Crit

Grim Dawn Gameplay Discussion
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I was reading some old discussions which seemed to imply that “X% chance on crit” procs competed with WPS abilities and with each other for activation time. I’d like to get clarification/confirmation if anyone can say for sure how this works.

If I have Upheaval trained and also have a Lapis Mantichora amulet equipped, both of which grant a 100% chance on critical attack ability, will both of them go off every time I crit, or does chance on crit totalling above 100 just turn into a weighting ratio as if they were WPS skills? And, if Feral Hunger goes off on that hit, does that mean that none of my on-crit stuff does?

I know I can map a chance on crit devotion ability to Upheaval and have that work as intended, but what about having multiple crit-based class skills and items?

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All normal “on crit” procs will trigger independantly (may trigger all on the same hit).
Upheaval is Weapon Pool Skill (similar to Feral Hunger or Markovian’s Advantage). It follows all WPS rules (read them in game mechanics), except that it can occur only when your default attack made a crit roll. I dont think there is another “on-crit” WPS.

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What if you dual wield weapons that have both the same coc skill with a recharge rate? Do they proc 2 times and then go on cd or will one proc and the other goes on cd as well?

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They have independent cooldowns (meaning they can proc 2 times).

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Actually, procs on weapons act in the same way as proc on other items. They proc from anything - weapon damage, skill damage, constellation procs, DoT ticks, and sometimes even non-damage skills.

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OK. So if I understand you correctly, then if I have 20% chance to be used each on Markovian’s, Zolhan’s, and Feral Rage, and then I have a 100% chance to be used on crit for Upheaval, then when I crit the actual chance of Upheaval going off is 100/160 = 62.5%. If that’s the case then I need to untrain all other WPS besides Upheaval if I want to maximize Oleron’s going off…

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You’re right about upheaval, but Oleron isnt WPS proc, so it procs independantly. Furthermore, on-crit constelations should be linked tp Upheaval. In that case, though, chance reduces if other WPS are present, but still remains solid. If you want remove some WPS, remove MA.