Conversion

Hi pro gamers!

So, I made a cadence discord witchblade build and my thought was to use the blood orb of ch’thon to convert all elemental damage to chaos. It did not work, on cadence tool tip I still had a large portion of damage as fire/lightning/cold…(made sure skill was active several times)

After reading game mechanics section I was under the impression that the order of conversion was skilldamage skilldamage transmuter/conversion- item conversion. Where did I go wrong?

/Grillz

PS it was still a decent build with high damage output but I was expecting more.

Cuz conversion can only happen once.
In this case, you used discord. Therefore, the elemental dmg won’t be converted to chaos by Orb’s buff.

From game mechanics section:

Conversion
Conversion is a special stat found on equipment and skills that changes one damage type to another. The way it behaves is different depending on whether it modifies a skill or is found on a piece of equipment.

The order of events for Conversion is as follows: Base Skill > Skill Modifiers > Conversion on the Skill or Transmuter > Conversion on Equipment and Buffs > Equipment, Auras and Passives

If you have a skill, such as a Transmuter, that converts the damage your attack does, then this calculation is performed before any bonuses from other skills, attributes or equipment are considered. Skill modifiers are still applied first. What this means is that if you take a skill that normally deals Aether damage and use Conversion to make it deal Chaos damage instead, then the skill will benefit from % Chaos Damage bonuses instead of % Aether Damage bonuses.

If you have an amulet with 10% of physical damage converted to fire, that means that 10% of all physical damage you deal (regardless of source) will be dealt as fire instead. This calculation is done before any bonuses you receive to physical damage from Cunning, skills and equipment. What this means is that you can change the damage your weapons and skills do to suit the % damage bonuses on your equipment, opening up exciting opportunities for hybrid builds."

Where is that explained? I admit, my main language is not English so it is possible I missunderstand the help files. Still I wasted a lot of hours gathering gear, leveling the character and fine tuning the setup. Irritating.

/ Grillz

English isn’t my mother tongue, either.

You just need to read more carefully…

All that line say is that the transmuter is calculated before any bonuses from other skills/attributes/equipment are considered.

Doesn’t make sense to me that conversions from items will not be included in calculations after the transmuter.

/Grillz

Anyway, you got the answer now.
Enjoy.

Hehe, thanks for the answer. It verifies my test results but I will still argue that help files could be more clear on this matter.

It is quite clear to me and most of people.
If you want to avoid testing by yourself, next time you can make a post here to ask first.

The game guide never states that conversion can only happen once.

Conversion only happens once

Discord Build for the OP

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53034