Demonslayer set build ?

Grim Dawn Classes, Skills and Builds
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Any build about this ? Is it viable ? I think it’s gonna be a witchhunter.

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Most likely PB build.

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Sorry for my ignorance but, what’s a PB build? What does PB means?

Greetings

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Phantasmal Blades

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Most of the items give Pierce and vit damage, Does PB benefit much from it ?

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Pierce is part of the base ability and vitality is added in “Heartseeker”. So yeah it benefits from it :slight_smile:

I’m working on one myself atm, I’ll keep you up to date how I’m doing!

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I have tried almost every classes and none can beat the efficiency of Spell Breaker if you want to spam PB. Arcanist tree solves way too many issues for PB spamming. I m currently using a good aether dmg PB setup, but haven’t tried Demonslayer yet. However, I can see that there will be more issues for this set to spamming PB…

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I Agree with Gring UNtil Dawn.
However, if you don’t use every piece of the demonslayer set, its not so bad. The chest piece with such low energy regen would be 100% crippling.

However the rest you should be able to get around, you’d need lots of ectoplasm in jewelery, and probably another good mana regen item somewhere to make up for it. This probably means it won’t be the most effective build as the damage increase from the set at max items likely won’t make up for the loss of crit damage and OA that you will have to forgo to get mana regen. Also, using Occultist as 2nd master adds to regen woes, as even its exclusive skill costs mana per second. It also doesn’t have a mana regen passive like the arcanist tree.

Pierce is 45% converted to vitality when you use PB as the spam version, so vitality become a core source of damage.

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My previous Aether PB set has 0 regen on chest. Therefore I think this isn’t a big issue. Besides, what’s the reason to use Demonslayer without that pretty complete set skill?

While worked on PB spamming builds, I discovered that mana regen is somehow important, but the key is actually “reduce skill energy cost” to allow your mana regen catch up.
This 2 major issues of PB spamming makes Arcanist tree an inevitable choice.

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damn buddy! I don’t like inevitable! :slight_smile:

My Devotion tree is going to be 100% cost reduction and energy regen! Bahaha :slight_smile:

Hasn’t the demonslayer set got pretty good 3rd piece bonuses? Hell, the gun alone is a beast :slight_smile: bonus PB spam on attack, hells to the yeah :slight_smile:

Besides, the + vit damage and -vit resists on occultist looks soooo tasty… Do I really need to go cold aether damage :frowning: especially since I have a blood orb of Ch’thon to convert all that cold damage to tasty chaos damage… :smiley: so my pblades would be doing almsot 100% vit/chaos damage (small amount of pierce and some bleed left)… :smiley:

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Arcanist can help get PBlades to nearly a 0% energy cost. Thats why you can sustain it no problem as a Spellbreaker. Amulet component for -10% energy cost, innate -50% on Frenetic Throw, -5% from Owl, and -20% or more from Mental Alacrity, -10ish% from Iskandra Relic. All that together gives you -45% energy cost, with -50% innate to Frenetic, takes you to -95% energy cost on P-blades. Overlevels on Mental Alacrity can give you a few more points, although you sure don’t need them when you abuse IEE’s insane damage and energy regen amp for a P-blades build.

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I am working on replacing this for other relic. Can you think of other -X% energy cost options except using relic slot?

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That’s what I’m working on! :slight_smile: focusing on chaos + vit and ADctH with Dying God.

btw do you have a second orb? It refuses to drop for me :frowning:

EDIT: but I agree with the others that the Demonslayer set is probably still not BiS. The vitality dmg comes in handy but the Pierce dmg is quite a loss on my setup

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Sadly without the solution of energy issue these all would just be “looks” tasty. Unless you don’t go for PB spamming build…

Arcanist tree gives following like no other class could compete and they are all essential elements for a PB spam build:

  1. -energy cost, 2) spirit bonus + extra regen, 3) casting speed, 4) +% OA 5) damage conversion.
    You might argue that there are other sources to get these. However, I can confidently say, none of them can be obtained without losing certain damage potential or other stuff so great to endanger the efficiency of the build.

In addition, there is one more important thing that will restrict your item selection: getting your PB to lvl 26 (capped) to get 6 projectiles.

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Demonslayer has some nice stuff but in the end it’s not that great, other setups can be much much nicer.

I have like 5+ if you want one :stuck_out_tongue: Shoot me a PM if interested

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Hello, i tried to make a build with it but it doesn’t work very well…I took PB with the cool down.
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46025

I talked a little with another player who send me a video of his build which seems to be a little better than mine :

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Sent. Love. <3 :smiley:

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I used this set on my aether PB spam char and made some modification. Energy issue is solved without Iskandra relic, but the damange wasn’t more impressive than my previous setup by far.
However, I can see some pros of using this set:

  1. Total OA increased.
  2. Good Life steal / better armor
  3. Less dependant on casting speed items.

Here are some basic goals that should be achieved as a PB spam build in my opinion:

  1. lvl 26 PB (for 6 projectiles)
  2. at least 190% casting speed with all buffs up.
  3. at least 28k up OA with buffs (ideally 3k).

Update: My tweaking of Demonslayer set is kinda done. I would say it can be an just “ok” PB setup, but still don’t think it has any chance to surpass the efficiency of the following Aether/Fire setup…

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42210

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If no one minds, i’m going to revive this topic to discuss a few changes to the Demonslayer set in 1.0.0.7 and a non Aetherfire Phantasmal Blades character in general.

  1. Cold to Vitality and Pierce to Vitality conversion.

  2. No energy cost on Possession. Extra flat energy on the chestpiece and pistol too.

  3. Flat vitality damage added to Devouring Blades.

Am I missing anything else? Personally, i’m liking the changes. The cold conversion on the set makes me wonder whether it would be worth dropping the Blood Orb now, perhaps for a Groble Death Effigy if you have less cold damage to convert.

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Well first, It wasnt to hard to make non aetherfire conversion PB. I have two PB setups that arent using aetherfire, both ulty viable. One is WH and other one is trickster.
Tricksters setup wasn’t using blod orb cuz it was vitality based DS setup, spamming devouring swarm and PBs. Got really buffed with this upgrades to DS set. Personally im using tome of arcane wastes on it but good rooled effigy can be better.

And small hint: Bis shoulders