offtopic: Ahhh, just to know, cause i make more melee oriented.
soulrend breaker 
:D, im trying to make a Paladin with Soulrend xD, already level 100 with some items, tweaking him atm
That’s a really interesting class combination. Why the paladin if I may ask?
Can one of the vets do out a list of must-have’s for bleed based builds?
I’ve never done a bleeding build :rolleyes:
Sure (am I a Vet?).
Must-Have:
- Huntress
- Mogdrogen
Nice-to-have:
- Falcon
- Fox
- Unknown Soldier
- Berserker (if using an axe)
Optional:
- Hawk
- Manticore (only optional, if you get other forms of RR)
Course you are you bloody son-of-a-gun. 
Some clarification in must-have constellations:
- Fire: some people also go Empyrion route
- Lightning: proven by years Dying God is better then SoH due to crit damage, total speed and chaos res
- Aether: DG+SoH+AH combo for every (caster or melee) aether build
- Chaos: Abomination if you like damage™
- Acid: 3 nodes in Ulzuin’s Torch are free with Abomination
I KNEW IT. I thought it was just me, but I almost always take DG for lightning builds.
They just seemed to run so much smoother.
I put in SoTH + Ultos because I wasn’t sure if I was right.
P.S. Will edit them tomorrow. Thanks for the input korsar!
Damn, I know people will tell me to shut up, but…nerf Dying God! 
Why???
DG has suffered enough as it is. Have you read its lore? :rolleyes:
Aye.
So he needs less of those heretical elementalists abusing his power, and more earnest followers of the one true faith!
Pity they can’t add chaos damage on critical.
offtopic: Ah, this is my rp side, i only play Paladins in arpg’s, mmorpg’s, loyal to my class xD, i made 3 inquisitor pure level 100, one used kalastor (pure fire ofc), another used storm box of elgoloth (pure lightning ofc) and another rune of hagarrad (pure cold ofc), i used what i could, the itens i have acumulated through my playtroughs etc (kinda of ssf style).
Now im tweaking one by one, min/max (mid tier, not veteran like the guys here), adding the strenghts of oathkeeper, fixing holes in the build, like you said “test the build to see how it runs and adjust accordingly”, xD.
Thats why i really enjoyed your topic :D.
ok guys, on-topic, some suggestions for melee-defensive, from must-have to like to have?
Ghoul, Behemoth, chariot of the dead, targo, obelisk, etc?
Which ones is must, which ones is nice? (some constellations to add?)
It’s hard to tell without a GT link.
But for S&B, obelisk is without question the best defensive devotion.
Targo is also really really good. The trouble with it is that you seldom can afford the devotion points for it.
Ghoul is the best for auto-attacking builds (e.g. righteous fervor).
Chariot of the dead, behemoth, and harp - all excellent on cooldown-reduction focused builds. To explain, it would be easiest to use chariot as an example:
Chariot has - 18s CD, 7s duration. 18 - 7 = 11s downtime.
So the more I can reduce my cooldown, the smaller this downtime becomes.
E.g. With 40% CDR, (60% * 18s) - 7s = 3.8s downtime.
This means, that for ever 10.8s in the game, 7s will be spent with you having +130 DA, +150 armor.
If you start stacking this with things like the eternity relic (-1s CD every 4.5s), then you can almost always have chariot buff up.
This was basically how a soulrend breaker survived.
Chariot is imho mainly for OA reasons (though the procc is really nice).
55 OA + 4 % + Cunning…really good, even more for Nightblade builds.
Ok, finished the list of transitory constellations.
Edited OP with korsar’s/myhr2’s suggestions
Just a small suggestion:
Since this is for new players, they might be better off if you use the sctual names instead of abbreviations like SotH.
Might help them if they don’t need to look around in your post what SotH meant.
I only ever use abbreviations after spelling out the name once. :eek:
Is it too unclear?
EDIT: List of abbreviations added
Sometimes I’m guessing what people do with that energy they saved when using abbreviations
I usually scratch my balls with that time.
Interesting.
Looks like I’ve been quite into shit tiers so far.
Though I’m not actually about to disagree - I could see Affliction as having a minor role in retal builds, though.