Does Aggressive prefix even drop?

Grim Dawn Gameplay Discussion
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Today I decided to look for something silly like Aggressive of Attack and realized that I can’t remember ever seeing one with that prefix drop, at least at high levels. I think I used an aggressive belt ages ago when leveling a character but that’s it. Meanwhile, Stalwarts still drop like no tomorrow. Made a few dozens of vendor runs and yep, not a single aggressive’s.

Is it intended, what’s the reason behind aggressive’s being absurdly rare like this? Even much more than Bloodletter’s and Tempest’s I think. +2% more OA too stronk?

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Never seen an “Aggressive” item. I did see a lot of “of Attack”, but don’t recall ever getting anything like “Aggressive”.

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Yeah, I almost forgot that it even exists, but it does: https://www.grimtools.com/db/category/rings/prefixes

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Comes up with ‘nothing found’ when I search for aggressive…

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It is a Magic prefix

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So I guess it’s a bug then :thinking:

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Last time I have seen it was a lot of patches ago. I guess it’s bugged. Because it’s brother Stalwart drops regularly.

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It drop on low level zones. Never seen it on ultimate.

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It’s a magic prefix that only comes on melee weapons, caster offhands, jewelry and belts. Maybe you were trying to get one on other items.

Anyways looking for specific affixes in this game is a fool’s errand, imo. The are 609 prefixes on rings. So checking out a “few dozen” isn’t enough for a solid chance.

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Even if you account for the “double counting” of the different levels of same prefix?

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Oops forgot about that. It’s much less than 609. Also, probabilities are uneven. But my point is still valid - looking for specific affixes, even magic ones, is borderline masochistic.

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Right, if we assume that all prefixes come in 4 tiers, it is still of the order 150 or so. Chance to get ONE specific prefix is (assuming even distribution, which is not true since yellow and green affixes have different probabilities) is 62% of you collect 150 items, 87% if you collect 300 items and 95% if you collect 450 items :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’d say chance to get a prefix might also be 100%, if you’re lucky enough or skilled enough (GDStash). :smiley:

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You can not say “chance can be 100% if you are lucky” that is not a valid statistical interpretation of “chance”

GDstash is not part of the game.

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You can’t even take a joke as a joke, smh…

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I am a math teacher, I never joke about statistics :wink:

(note: I know many are confused about what chance etc means, I have an entire youtube series about these things :stuck_out_tongue: So, that is another reason I do not like to joke about statistics, you never know if someone confuses it for facts)

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So what is the verdict? It is a low level roll that only happens in low level zones?

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Don’t know about now but I picked this up sometime before Ashes of Malmouth (hence why it’s only Level 85):

That said, pretty sure I’ve seen more Stalwarts than Aggressive :stuck_out_tongue:

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I think this is what happens. I don’t think I’ve seen this prefix after act 2 veteran.

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As I explained some time ago, GT shows all prefixes for all items of given category. This means that if there are, e.g. 100 belts and in loot table for one particular belt there is prefix X, which can be attached only to that particular belt, this restriction is NOT shown anywhere in grimtools. All affixes are treated as equal as if they can be encountered on any item of given category, but that’s not always the case. In the end it’s just an easy way I took to not inflate data file with all affix-item relations, so eventually this definitely needs fixing. You can check GDStash for more accurate info, I believe mamba uses proper affix tables for items, but I might be wrong.