or to put it in a different way, does the DA reduction from Flashbang and Blindside stack ?
Thank you !
Exactly in the same way (except that there is just SINGLE DA, contrary to MANY resistances). Reduced OA, armour, damage, etc work the same way.
I thought I read somewhere that Flashbang and Blindside didn’t stack, but that at least some other sources of DA reduction against mobs did stack.
I’d be happy to find a definitive source for which DA reducers stack with each other and which ones don’t. I haven’t found it yet, though.
Thing is, if DA reduction works like RR (and as far as i know it does) then it’s only natural that Flashbang and Blindside wouldn’t stack as they ar both flat reduction, just like Agonizing Flames’ RR doesn’t stack with Acid Spray’s.
So they would stack with -% RR like CoF or Night’s chill, as would Flasbang OR Blindside stack with -DA like on Vulnerability, but not with each other.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vw7I9fTSqtx9s3a4WVvkgiOGZ7leM81n1H1RrwrOzLc/edit#gid=0
Here’s a link about resist reduction and the wording of each category should give a clue for other debuff stacking questions cuz i think it’s consistent amongst diferent debuffs type (resist, DA, OA, etc.)
Someone please correct me if i’m wrong.
Everything here is correct, as described in the note I wrote in that link in column F27.
ok, that’s totally clear, ty for confirmation everyone (12 skill points saved mind you 
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Note that if you want to go on a OA reducing spree (and who wouldn’t) you can use the Bloody Pox modifier Wasting for up to -340, with for example Rend devotion skill for another -125. These stack (yay). Add for example 50 reduced from the Covenant of the Three helm proc and you can go over 500 reduced OA. Never get crit again.
This works for enemy DA as well but there isn’t a Wasting equivalent, sadly. Still, fun can be had.
And dont forget Veil of Shadows, for even more OA reduction 
Perhaps, just as for resistance and DA reduction, flat source of OA reduction also don’t stack?
Which would mean that the highest flat OA reduction total applies and the others are ignored.
I thought flat of any type of debuff didn’t stack with each other, just like flat resist reduction.
as far as i understand :
- 15 OA is like -10% res, thus it stacks (it’s a flat resist but works like the percentile penalties to resistances)
-15 Reduced target’s OA is like -10 reduced target’s res, thus it doesn’t stack
it’s always a pain to figure out, especially when there’s no percentile value, that’s why i asked 
That means Vulnerability and Flashbang stack. Vulnerability says -8 Defensive Ability and Flashbang says 30 Reduce Target’s Defensive Ability for 6 seconds.
If it’s true, damn that’s awesome. 250 from Flashbang plus 75 from Vulnerability is 325 DA reduction.
yeah i think you’re right, Pyro build incoming
You can see it this way:
- Stats stack. It does not matter what kind of stat, whether it’s resistances or DA, whether it’s positive or negative. Something like Night’s Chill or Curse of Frailty is like forcing for a set duration a mob to equip an item reading “-x% elemental resistance”.
- “Effects” do not. What I mean by effect is a single line in the tooltip of a skill and you apply it for a set duration that does not depend on the skill. “x reduced target’s DA for x seconds”. Again it doesn’t matter which stat is affected, only the wording matters.
Hopefully that helps.
This is a good way an extremely accurate way of putting it.
Under the hood, -X% Resists, -DA or -OA (or -% versions of them), or -Health/-% Health (doesn’t exist for players to use, but Deathlords have it) are really just stat modifiers like you’d see on gear (e.g., +5000% Fire Resist on Devil’s Cage Hauberk, +3000 DA on The Untouchable, or +9001 OA on The Chariot Constellation). If these didn’t stack, players would have a very hard time surviving Ultimate.
On the other hand, X% Reduced Target’s Y or X Reduced Target’s Y are “effects” which are not simple stats summed up everywhere.
Edit: I guess the point is that if it looks like something that affects your character on gear, it probably stacks.
Here’s what I’m reading, in a nutshell:
If it says “Reduced”, then it doesn’t stack.
If it begins with “-”, then it stacks.
Thank you all for your patience in helping those who are a bit slow at getting this stuff (I raise my hand right about here) to finally get it. :rolleyes:
I hope. :eek:
Yes, “-” stacks with other “-”, if those come from different debuffs. If from same debuffs - they dont stack either. BTW, all “reduced” place the same debuff on enemy, that’s why they all dont stack with each other (same debuff = no stacking).