Dual Wield mechanic flaw with Cadence

[jhonbanting]

Every 3rd shot should proc cadence right?
When it comes with dual wield gun/melee sometimes you got bonus attack, so if you only single handed sword for example you only do 1 click (dont hold it) for single time attack, but if you dual wield sometimes you 1 click got double attack, and yes the bonus attack from dual wield doesnt proc cadence
why this is concern me?
it simply because im cadence build, every 1st and my 2nd attack is very weak, i need consistent every 3rd attack is cadence proc even its from bonus dual wield attack

[Xeilua]

Cadence conflicts with ALL Weapon Pool Skills, not just the dual-wielding ones. Apparently this is “working as intended”.

Edit: Quote from mid-2014:

After further investigation, we have determined Cadence to be working as it should. Now I cannot currently test the live build to confirm, but I do not see why it would work differently from the current internal build.

When Cadence is uncharged, weapon pool skills trigger as expected.
When Cadence reaches the first charge, its buff icon does not yet appear. During this time, weapon pool skills can still trigger.

When Cadence reaches its second charge, the buff icon is visible and the skill is “primed”. The next hit is then the Cadence strike. For this third attack, weapon pool skills cannot trigger.

This is intended behavior. We cannot combine weapon pools with the Cadence hit. What this boils down to is that using Cadence results in 2/3 of your attacks being capable of activating weapon pool skills, while the 1/3 that are Cadence attacks cannot.

[Jaknet]

, but if you dual wield sometimes you 1 click got double attack, and yes the bonus attack from dual wield doesnt proc cadence

If I remember correctly the reason is that you don’t get a bonus “Attack”, all that happens on that single attack is that you attack with both weapons simultaneously, it’s not a separate attack.

Thus Cadence DOES proc on each third attack by you regardless of whether the first 2 attacks were with one weapon or both weapons at once.

Basically you click once to attack and even if both weapons attack it’s still a single attack.

Hope this helps explain things

[StillSingle]

This was patched a while back now I’m pretty sure the old cadence was grossly overpowered when all of the two weapon attacks counted as 2 attacks for cadence. Which also meant you could proc cadence within another weapon pool skill! it was crazy

And yeah, the 3rd strike overrides all WPS by design. If you wanted full weapon pool skills effectiveness, better to use firestrike or savagery.

[Goat]

Every 3rd shot should proc cadence right?
When it comes with dual wield gun/melee sometimes you got bonus attack, so if you only single handed sword for example you only do 1 click (dont hold it) for single time attack, but if you dual wield sometimes you 1 click got double attack, and yes the bonus attack from dual wield doesnt proc cadence
why this is concern me?
it simply because im cadence build, every 1st and my 2nd attack is very weak, i need consistent every 3rd attack is cadence proc even its from bonus dual wield attack

It’s not really “every 3rd hit” it’s “every 3rd weapon pool skill”

So it’s like this:

1h hit -> quick cut -> cadence -> 2h hit -> execution -> cadence -> 2h hit -> markovians -> cadence

[jhonbanting]

If I remember correctly the reason is that you don’t get a bonus “Attack”, all that happens on that single attack is that you attack with both weapons simultaneously, it’s not a separate attack.

Thus Cadence DOES proc on each third attack by you regardless of whether the first 2 attacks were with one weapon or both weapons at once.

Basically you click once to attack and even if both weapons attack it’s still a single attack.

Hope this helps explain things

now this explain me, thanks for explanation even though i was disappointed with the mechanic