[1.1.9.0] Beginner's Forgotten Blademaster

Blessed Whetstone.

EDIT: but even with two of them and Nadaan that would be 30% * (1 + 200/100) = 90%, and you’re losing super strong Seal of Blade components. I’m not using these easy to get swords in the guide for a reason.

Got it. I was just curious if there was any good way to do it. Having to give up Seal of Blades only to end up with a 10% pierce damage nerf sounds pretty bad, so it would seem that the answer is a hard “no”.

That said, I assume you meant “I’m not using these easy to get swords in the guide for no reason.”?

Uh, perhaps? Not that well versed in english grammar & semantics.
The meaning was that there’s a reason why I’m not using it in the guide, and that reason is exactly low piercing ratio.

Hi @Stupid_Dragon ! THX very much for Your help and this build. For me as newbie was BIG help. with your build, I went through the whole game, including the ultimate difficulty and basic last bosses. Amazing, fast character. Im SC player, so no problem if i sometime died :slight_smile:
Now, ive got equip already,change to “Belgothian spec” and tryed another devotions etc. Now i have very fast dps character, not so dificult(not too much abilieties), but small armor and not enough res. With this ability/equip setup, do You have any opinions for me ? CHange DPS to resists and armor but where ? Sorry for my bad ENG and one more thanks for Your help here on forum ! Daniel

here my grimtools: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/wV1eJ1DV

Hello.

Contrary to common assumptions I haven’t played Belgo blademaster.
Best I can suggest is to try to copy @mad_lee 's Luminari Godlikker.

I’m using this one [1.1.7.1] DW Baldemaster Ravager of Flesh Kill 1m16s, Mogdrogen Kill 1m30s, Callagadra Kill 3m50s, SR 75~76 [vid]

Very easy to play and does sr 75/76 relatively easily, depending on boss combinations. I usually farm 65-66 and with that build it’s very easy to do it.

Thanks very much guys, i try to ask @mad_lee in his post.

How do the skills like Marvovian’s Advantage and Amarasta’s Quick Cut (I believe they’re known as WPS skills?) interact with each other? Do their proc chances work addatively, such that if you have four of these skills procing at least 25% of the time, every autoattack will be replaced by one of them? What happens if you have more than 100% chance from all the procs added together?

And what about Cadence? Does that cause every 3rd attack to not be able to proc these skills?

Yes.

You have to scale the added chances to 100 again to obtain the % at which each skill activates (so, for example, if you had 5 skills each with a 25% chance for a total of 125% of a WPS activating, when scaling to 100% it would meaan each of them have a 20% chance of activating).

Yes, Cadence procs don’t activate WPS as far as I know.

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Weirdly it does actually. When you dual wielded atleast, with DW you hit right>left>left+right. And technically Cadence hit only with your main weapon but in instances like your Cadence Hit coincide with left+right hit; your off-hand weapon has a chance to proc wps. So you hit with both hands; Cadence hits with your main hand damage X 5; your off hand damage hits non-cadence so it’s basically base attack %100 weapon damage but if overlaps WPS too then the damage increases significantly.

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Oh cool, I didn’t know that’s how it worked! And it’s neat that WPS can proc on Cadence hits if those hits happen to correspond to the L+R attack.

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Thanks for the build! Im pretty new, and Ive gave it a try, however as soon as I’ve switched at lvl 35, shit hit the fan, Not only i stopped to one shot whole groups of mobs, but Ive also got more hp and started to die more quickly. I have no idea whats causing that, But being the cold monster (freezing everything) and one shotting like 20 mobs at once with ring of frost was uber great… I feel like cadence (even tho being like 1k more dps according to character sheet) feels like 10 times weaker :confused:

Yeah, I’m aware of this issue. Once transition happens you’re losing AoE briefly so you’ll begin taking more time to kill things in the crowds and also taking more damage as a result. Unpleasant but not much of a problem if defenses are adequate, but devastating otherwise.

You can:

  • Adjust a build so that it included Ring of Steel again, but don’t take the transmuter.
  • Look into ways of improving your defenses

Can tell more but that would require GT link of your character.

Know that the build isn’t supposed to have much AoE even by the end of the day (even though things certainly improve compared to level 35!). It is mostly a single target DPS machine, you ain’t chasing every white mob when playing that. Kill heroes & annoying stuff and move on.

IGNORE THIS. I WAS WRONG.

Taking a closer look at this build, now that I have more knowledge of game mechanics, I think you’ve made a mistake by taking both Assassin’s Mark (devotion proc) and Night’s Chill (mastery skill). They both give -% Pierce Resist to whatever you’re attacking, which means they don’t stack (see here for why). In short, when two sources both give “-n% X Resistance”, the game picks the better one and discards the other. So since Night’s Child 10/10 is better than Assassin’s Mark 20/20 by 2%, the game applies only Night’s Chill.

So that means if you want to improve your Pierce resist nerfing potential, you need to use “n Reduced Target’s X Resistance” in place of either Assassin’s Mark or Night’s Chill, which for a Pierce Blademaster is limited to the Manticore devotion (Break Morale only reduces Physical resist). Still, 15/15 Acid Spray is 25 Reduced Target’s Resistances, which is killer, since it stacks additively with Night’s Chill. That’s -55% Pierce Resist, which will utterly ruin your enemy’s day. And yes, you can take their resists into the negative. :slight_smile:

Though getting the prereqs for Manticore can be a bit rough, and several of its nodes give worthless buffs. But that’s a 25% or more total damage boost (enemies with high base pierce resist suffer more from -25% resist than those with low resist), which makes me think it’s probably worth that cost.

-n% stacks

read your document again…

btw revenant also has flat (category A) resistance removal, which was choice in the build.

one point break morale in this build I think was choosen for skill disrupt that can be nice to like prevent healers etc

D’oh! Now I do feel the fool. :sweat:

And wow, someone’s gonna need to update that spreadsheet to mention Revenant. That’s super relevant, and the resist reduction is not mentioned on either of the wikis I use, either.

I wonder who’s even in charge of that spreadsheet…

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Yeah, I’m aware of this issue. Once transition happens you’re losing AoE briefly so you’ll begin taking more time to kill things in the crowds and also taking more damage as a result. Unpleasant but not much of a problem if defenses are adequate, but devastating otherwise.
You can:
Adjust a build so that it included Ring of Steel again, but don’t take the transmuter.
Look into ways of improving your defenses
Can tell more but that would require GT link of your character.
Know that the build isn’t supposed to have much AoE even by the end of the day (even though things certainly improve compared to level 35!). It is mostly a single target DPS machine, you ain’t chasing every white mob when playing that. Kill heroes & annoying stuff and move on.

Thanks for the explanation, guess I should start ignoring white mobs then :smiley:
Also, is this gear like the end gear? no legendary gear is a viable upgrade? Or some sets or something?

For starters I’d review your defenses if I were you, since situation when you can’t survive a crowd of white mobs is definitely abnormal. Esp. check your armor and armor absorption.

Ofcourse not!

This is a direct upgrade:

There’s plenty of other high end blademaster builds here

My build was meant only as a stepping stone and is in no way intended to compete with full slotted build with legendary gear.

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Thanks, yeah i mean, since im new, I only have to use whatever I can loot, dont have tons of gear to pick from, So I’ll pay closer attention to more defensive stats from now on I guess.

Great to hear that there are still upgrades for the build to be made :smiley:

And this is my GT, im playing veteran ofc.

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/eZP1MGXN

2020-11-02_21-53-24

That’s not even bringing up that your gear is about 10 levels behind your character level when it comes to armor rating, to the point that your highest armor piece is boots somehow due to the virtue of being a level 30 blue.

So yeah, no wonder you’re getting rekt. As I suspected you’ve been living off crowd control till now.

Cheeky. :rofl:

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