[DW melee] Beginner's Forgotten Blademaster

Thanks for fast reply. Okay…I think I have to finish normal campaign+elite since I consider this character as my first, others were pretty much garbage anyway…Thanks a lot :slight_smile:

Hello. I love this build. Simple and straightforward. Little to no kiting except when doing totems.

Currently at level 90. I am now scratching my head with skill & attribute points.
Did you take a look at “American dream” build which is very similar to yours? What do you feel is the main difference between your build and his?

I noted that instead of investing equally into Physique and Cunning. He put everything into Cunning which makes more sense in terms of damage but causes less regeneration. Is there a sweet spot?

What about his swords? I know that you rely on faction & easy to find gear. What about those Malmouth swords? Less Armor Piercing but I believe they are overall better in the end. I believe that using level 94 swords makes more sense than keeping level 65 swords. Are the Dermapteran Slicers limited in level ?

Yes, I’m well aware of that build.

The main difference is my guide attempts to provide full scale of information on how to level a character, while his build focuses on pushing the limits of the budget setup. You can say that his build is a good follow-up to mine.

That aside, his build is more up to date and I’d say more optimized overall, although among the choices he done there is both stuff I like and dislike.

Banana is a renown Crucible speedrun superstar while I just casually play the game on hardcore to my enjoyment. It’s not unusual for him to glass a character a bit since he’s just very good at piloting DW nightblade builds. I think my stat distribution is more balanced.

Less armor piercing is exactly the reason I don’t like them. But I didn’t test them in-depth. I think Derma Slicers are easy enough to farm if it’s just superior/puncturing of alacrity.

No, as with every MI item they have several tiers. If enemies are high enough level you can get a level 94 Slicer too. I wouldn’t had used them if they stopped scaling at 65 ofcourse.

Thanks StupidDragon for the detailed answer (and thanks again for the detailed path for leveling, I went back to that post countless times and learned so much from it).
Now at level 94 with my blademaster (my highest character). I’ll certainly go back to farm some slicers.

I luckily drop a Mythical Grasp of Unchained Might. I’ve read your replies about Unknown Soldier devotion nodes. Does the resistance reduction of glove stack with revenant skeleton. If not should I remove manticore+revenant+1 purple node and choose Harpy+Unknown Soldier. Will that be good? Seal of Blade still eluded me, that 6% life leech would be a loss until I found the recipe though.

My Character as of now: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/r2B03yBZ

I’ve just reach Homestead Ultimate. Will farm for some slicers :slight_smile:


It’s a standard practice once you have M. Grasp of Unchained Might, but the exact setup may vary from builder to builder. At this point I recommend to check other people’s blademaster builds, since they surely know better :slight_smile:

You’ll still be the best to me :smiley: Okay then, I’ll look for those guides or maybe do some tweak meself :grimacing: :+1:

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Im new to this game and maybe im just bad but im having a very hard time clearing since this skill seems to mainly be single target.

Indeed, it gets better once you get all key WPS procs like belgothian and whirling death, plus Azraaka in devotions. If you don’t have them yet you can put more points into Ring of Steel temporarily. But in it’s essence it’s a build with high single target and low AoE. It will never have a caster-like screen wide AoE. Which isn’t a problem since you don’t really need to kill every white skeleton, just kill heroes & tough enemies and move along.

I’ve played Grim Dawn on and off for several years but haven’t studied the mechanics too closely until now. I’m loving this build so far (and the guide) and am having good success blowing through the campaign on Veteran.

Quick question though, I currently level 41, made the transition to Cadence at 35 and the game got a lot easier as a result. I just picked up my first 2 Dermapteran Slicers a short while ago, however I have a mace that gives +2 levels to Cadence.

According to the tool tip on Page 2 of the character sheet for Cadence, its a big DPS loss to equip the second Dermapteran Slicer. However on page 1 under Damage per Second, the 2nd Dermapteran Slicer is better.

While leveling, is it worth it to keep the +2 levels to Cadence? Or am I losing out on DPS somehow not having a second Dermapteran Slicer equiped? Which tool tip do I believe?

Thanks for the help and any information on the mechanics you care to share.


Here’s the stats on the Mace:
Relentless Raider Bladed Mace of Alacrity
15-143 Physical Damage
1.80 Attacks per Second
10% Chance of 87 Physical Damage
19% Physical Damage
15% Attack Speed
+2 Cadence

Nice, glad to hear it worked for you. Recently I’ve got some feedback that it’s underwhelming when you first switch to Cadence.

To be honest it doesn’t really matter much, and that Cadence tooltip on page 2 takes into account only sheer damage from Cadence discharge, while the number on the first page is DPS. It’s not surprising that mace would result in higher peak damage but lose in dps. I usually just trust the 1st page, but with some caution.

how is this build working in 1.1.7 any changes or just follow what is stated in the guide? :smiley:

It still has Emp. Essence of Beronath which is a leftover from the old time when it gave +1 to all skills. At the same time there are now +1 to Soldier/Nightblade green belts as well as +1 to Soldier/Nightblade green amulets, so you can more or less reproduce my skills with that. Devotions still look decent, well, maybe I’d invest these 4 points in Targo in something else, but I’m not sure where. The new MI bias system is a boon for this char because it uses two Dermapteran’s Slicers.

While some aspects might be outdated and I’d certainly do stuff slightly different now, it’s still a viable build, perhaps even a bit stronger than it was.

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Hey, just wanted to say “Thank You” for this great Guide.

I’ve more than 1k hours in GD and i like to follow guides like this. Its well written and easy to follow.

While i am able to follow GDStah Builds or just a naked [SUPER AWESOME BUILD] LINK.
I doubt that a new Player could follow that kind of “BuildGuide”.

Thank you for your effort.

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Hello Dragon,

Dropping a message to say thank you for this incredible and still viable build.

This was my second build to 100 and it was a breeze to play. Killing all the quest content on ultimate wasn’t hard at all.

This is the current gear which i was able to kill all quests content including all dungeons.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4Vxp7wJV (for some reason my medal is not showing up.)

They are still some bosses which I’m struggling to kill (lokhar and climbing SR), but its getting there.

Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.


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Hi Dragon, thanks for the guide, been following this guide and having much fun.
Just wondering, if it makes sense to drop cadence since I found full belgo set?

Current build: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/gZwWzEkZ

thanks man.

It does. Forgotten Blademaster is essentially a “pre-Belgo” build, meaning once you have full belgo you can switch to belgo build, there are plenty of them in compendium to benchmark.

Thanks for this great build. Still going strong even in 1.1.7 patch. Just to share , my own variation : If you are patient enough and willing to farm for more materials, keep on crafting the belt until you get multiple resistances with the “impervious” prefix. This will allow you to use DA Augments on some of your gear rather than resistances augments. I then invested 4 points in Ulo , Keeper of Waters , one of the most underrated skills in the entire game. The debuff kills single target bosses very fast. I was able to facetank Father Kymon and Master of Flesh in Hardcore Ultimate difficulty without potion and aether clusters.

Hi there!

Just wanted to say your guide is GREAT! Been using it as a skeleton for my Blademaster and it turned out really nicely.

However just wondering for the amulet is there a reason for you using the essence of Beronath instead of for example a Mogara’s pendant?

The reason is the build is outdated, Essence of Beronath had +1 to all skills back then. Same thing for belt, +1 factions and MI belt didn’t exist back then.