saying it again, so you can understand it:
yes, “one pointing” my pet skills resulted in lower dps and was probably a mistake, but it was irrelevant in this situation
thanks for the suggestion,
that focus on the raven is interesting, I might take 1-2 items from your suggestion but I’ll probably just go on and look for proper items once I reached the higher end lvls
Oh btw, I’m wondering if I should craft me “Ancestor” over the “Guile” I use now,
I mean guile has +flat phys dmg and +75% phys dmg…
How is that calculated?
Say, if a pet does phys dmg, and you have +500% pet dmg and +100% phys dmg, is it additive or multiplicative?, so is the result 700% or 1200% total dmg?
I don’t think your math is adding up. If the aura gives +100% phys damage and your pets already have +500% damage, then they’ll do +600% phys damage.
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all % dmg is additive
total dmg modified(TDM) is multiplicative
also keep in mind, even if it’s pets they’re still dealing with flat dmg scaling rules, and Zantai nerfed them a little to scale less on flats, so ancestor is probably overall better, also since +class etc
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thanks, that’s what I wanted to know
idono, maybe i got lucky 
*i couldn’t use healing rain or shepherds call because save editor copying builds autimaticalyl max levels devos, and i’ve no idea what your ranks were, so just disabled them
take two, def bit slower, but still doable
take three, for whatever reason(no clue why) i thought maybe bit more bleed/phys RR would improve stuff, but honestly i don’t know if it did or rng despite Elndadrin having more health mutator
maybe your raven stunned him too much 
wondering… taking ancenstor or just using hysteria? the crab spirit seems pretty nice already
he has 100 stun res 
aeh, personally i’m a sucker for more pets/zoo play, and i think crab is funny, but tends to die a lot/fast
Ancestor is probably the more “efficient” or saner choice, but i still probably for crab until something high end
something i just realized Grim Dawn Pet Database , briar has innate 30 vit res
so, if your briar was strong enough dps and aggro wise, “to tank”, as a pet build
you would have had enough vitality res, because your Briar would have had a fat 70 vit res resulting in the desired much smaller heals https://youtu.be/cpL0fKIV26U?t=32
interesting, means I should definitely check the db to get to know the pets better
regarding your videos, you can see in the 2nd how annoying the heals can be though that’s still not “max”, yet, with a little less dps that’d be very hard to beat,
note how he’s throwing 3 projectiles, and how placement matters,
I think even in that vid he never manages to hit with more than 1 or 2 projectiles,
I might have been a bit unlucky with me and my melee pets stacking up on each other or some other detail that made him hit with 3, but the heals I saw were definitely a lot higher
i feel like you keep trying to make a lot of excuses, regardless of anything directed at you…
yes it took longer to kill him, but the pets still killed him in less than 2mins, while being static “no kiting to prevent getting hit” or even moving pets around, which is a whole lot of different from your “he was immortal”…
you said actually maxing pets/“you build dmg” wouldn’t matter, you specifically said it would be irrelevant to the situation, you are then shown different…
*without using different items or even your devos…
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yes you just believe what you see,
no I did not record how he was healing for up to 50% at a time, making the dps difference irrelevant just as I said,
simply assuming what I said is a lie is a bold statement, I did not do such a thing and I’m taking (the good) advice here with gratitude,
and I would not even begin to argue that my build at the time was flawless,
it was just as I said and I’d really appreciate if people here could be more respectful to each other instead of throwing assumptions and worse…
i feel like you’re misunderstanding…?
it’s not about me disregarding your experience/“words”; i’m showing you, that your build, with higher attention to dmg “just moving skill points”; would indeed be able to kill him, and in some/certain ways do so more simply (hence the difference in distributions i messed with)
You are being shown, what we said, does indeed work “the way we said it”… so i don’t get why you keep acting like it doesn’t
you have 4 videos showing you, that your build, with your items and devos, including devo skills unused, would have been able to kill him as “full”/higher pet focus…
I’m not using some fancy other/personal character, i’m using your setup, with pet skill points changed… not even adding in player dps from your amber either…
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on another note:
how mandatory is that bysmiel devotion for a pet build?
more specifically, how good is the pet that it spawns?
on a technical level more pet better, and the OA shred can potentially be nice too, and it does have decent stats.
I don’t always personally take it, sometimes i feel it’s too hard to squeeze in on the overall nitpicky devo idea i have, so i get RR elsewhere.
Both works, unless the greens really screw with your map, it’s probably overall better to have it
I seriously don’t know why you need to rage on this point?
Is this a competition for you? Do you need to “win”? Because you won’t, and it isn’t…
I did not say anything about build advice and so on,
why would I even try to claim that it’s not more dps?
The only thing you don’t get is how that mob was, in my case, in that specific situation, somehow doing more healing than you could reproduce with your video,
(I assume) the mutators are random so that alone would make it impossible to 100% recreate my situation as I did not note them,
You insisting on “proving” something here is just ridiculous, and shows how little respect you have for your fellow humans, let alone GD players, which is really dissapointing
there is no difference in healing just potential healing, whether he keepts shooting you, doggo or briar: but even when shooting doggo the setup could kill him, “as demonstrated”…
The mutators doesn’t matter to change it from 1 min kill to “impossible”…
that’s the point, you’re keep making excuses as if the advice was irrelevant, “when you are shown the advice works”…
you are being dismissive of the advice itself, in saying it wouldn’t have mattered, when it would, that’s the point
that’s the part that’s annoying, you keep making excuses instead of accepting the advice actually works, “as shown it does”…
be it trying to attribute it to stun, despite 100 stun res, or magical 50x more healing, despite not mechanically possible…
i’m not saying he didn’t heal more during your fight, but you fail to understand the reason why the pet setup still would have killed him… it would have caused him to heal less by changing targets also to briar, meanwhile the combined extra dps takes him down either way…
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just because you fail to reproduce the exact situation does not mean your assumptions are right,
the only thing you proved here is how little respect you have for others,
your “elitist” mindset, which does not mean you are actually better at anything, and your lack of understanding anything outside your bubble, even considering any information that you don’t already know, is staggering, as if you’re afraid to accept anything outside of that because it would shatter your world, which is typical for people who understand just a bit but not a lot of what they are talking about (see dunning kruger effect),
your stubbornness, your insistence on this, for no good reason at all,
simply proves that my bad experience on the discord was no coincidence, apparently people here are just that toxic, albeit in weird ways…
consider this here closed, I simply do not care for your pointless babbling at this point, you are wasting my time (and yours) and you are not going to achieve anything but to prove how bad of a person you are, so you should stop in your own best interest
there is nothing elitist here…
just disappointment of your (continued) rejection of what information being bothered to be provided you…
You make it feel like as if any attempt to share things or help with game interaction is pointless
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