I don’t think soldier due the menhir connection. So Templar with soldier.
Well, the Arcanist is pretty much the Alchemist from Torchlight in a lot of ways, but I still like it quite a lot anyway.
The To the face Soldier class is pretty much the destroyer but anyway, they are blended quite well in the Grim Dawn universe, they just have similar mechanincs.
The same can be done with an Engineer-themed mastery.
No weapon specific skills for it, focusing on turrets, crowd control and survival mechanism. Able to complement all the other masteries with lots of support skills and basically building it’s own strength on that.
Turrets, perhaps shooting multiple types of projectiles and spawning with like a flamethrower, nova turret and other skills like that.
Benefitting from player damage bonuses, effectively having a trapper build that can support itself without any weapon requirements in the build, leaving space to pair it properly with anything.
That’s just my two cents on my vision for the 10th mastery, that we don’t have and will actually be unique, fun and viable. 
As for the theme of the engineer, I’m sure Crate’s creative team will be able to shape it quite well and integrate it in the GD universe 
The caster and the warrior archetypes weren’t invented with torchlight. That’s for sure.
Eagerly awaiting the new expansion, I revisited the Grim Misadventures of yesteryear concerning the AoM expansion to get a clue of the time span between the announcing of the new mastery and the actual release.
I don’t know if it was a mistake, a slip-up or a genius and deliberate flash forward of what was to come after the AoM expeansion release, but in GM #108 (Introducing the Inquisitor) I found this:
Sentinel was called as class name, meanwhile Infiltrator (Nightblade) and Apostate (Necromancer) were left out.
Makes you wonder if you could extrapolate this to the current situation:
Sentinel = Oathkeeper + Inquisitor?
Sentinel = Oathkeeper + Nightblade?
Sentinel = Oathkeeper + Necromancer?
If the mention in GM #108 says anything, Zantai’s earlier comment makes a lot more sense:
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Apostate was left out because the Necromancer mastery hadn’t been announced at that point.
Sentinel was announced, but later dropped.
I’m guessing nightblade for sentinal. Silver Sentinal set as source.
True, true.
But it was likely well in the making, Zantai asking us what we would think the 8th mastery would be.
But then what is the Ritualist doing in that early list?
Are the class names that interchangeable?
Guess you’re right.
Too bad, I thought I was onto something…
I can see my new favorite mastery over here.
Well, if you count them up, you’ll see there are 7 class names, but at that point there were only 6 masteries so something had to go. Sentinel was dropped in favour of Infiltrator and Ritualist moved to be one of the Necromancer class names announced in GM#114.
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52416
Given that 10 of the 28 classes available in GD have names from TQ masteries/classes interchangable is right. 
Paladin and Templar will up that number to 12.
I would have sworn that Sentinel was announced at one time as Shaman+Inquisitor. But I searched for that info on the web moments ago and I couldn’t find it.
On the one hand, Sentinel would make sense as Nightblade+Oathkeeper, due to the Silver Sentinel set and the fact that it supports Nightblades. But on the other hand, Dervish fits perfectly Nightblades, because it suggests a warrior monk archetype, who often have blade magic skills, and are close to the assassin archetype, which Nightblade is.
But on the other hand, Inquisitor is also a good candidate for a warrior monk type, so I don’t really know.
On the other hand, Templar would also fit Inquisitor+Oathkeeper combo, and it’s hard to see what other combo could be Templar at all. Maybe Soldier+Oathkeeper, but what is then Warlord? Warlord only makes sense, in my opinion, as Oathkeeper+Soldier.
So my guess is:
Dervish = Nightblade + Oathekeeper
Warlord = Soldier + Oathkeeper
Templar = Inquisitor + Oathkeeper
Oppressor = Occultist + Oathkeeper
Paladin = Arcanist + Oathkeeper
Archon = Necromancer + Oathkeeper
Sentinel = Shaman + Oathkeeper
I don’t know about Demo. Shieldbreaker is what remains, but that just sounds awful.
Yes, and the old TQ classes don’t make speculating any easier.
TQ’s Paladin: Defense + Storm (Cold & Lightning)
=> Arcanist, Shaman?
TQ’s Templar: Defense + Dream (Electrocute & Vitality)
=> Shaman?
Me earlier: “Y’know, money’s tight. I think I’d only buy this expansion if they came out with some kind of paladin-ish mastery. I’m a sucker for that stuff. Too bad that’s never going to happen.”
Me now: sighs. opens wallet.
I think most of you are guessing wrong when you say that soldier + oathkeeper is going to be “templar” or “paladin”.
Both templar and paladin have some sort of “holy” or “magic” nuances to their name, and the soldier is far from that.
My guesstimate is “shield maiden”.
Btw Crate, thank you so much. I really wanted to play a solo shield class and now i can enjoy soldier and ek.
Just to add it here this is my secret wishlist of things i wish you will add into the expansion:
- a circuit breaker for gunshot mechanism (like zhantarin) for hardcore players
- keep auras on weapon swap (so if both weapon have the same augments the aura doesn’t need to be recast). Same should apply to all auras that requires a certain weapon to be equipped, so if in your swap you have the same weapon you don’t have to recast it.
Anything “war” in this game typically involves the Soldier mastery. As for Paladin, I believe it to be with Demolitionist. Take a look at Infernal Brimstone’s flavor text. Also anyone who thinks Sentinel isn’t with Occultist isn’t paying attention.
YAAAAAAAASSSSSS!!!
This is exactly the kind of class I’ve been hoping for since the last expansion. It seemed like I got shouted down in the Necromancer announcement thread when I kept arguing that there was plenty of room in the lore for holy warrior fanatic types in the world of Cairn.
The Oathkeeper fits the bill. I’m really happy to see this aesthetic and skill set, of course with the Grim Dawn twist - this is not looking to be just another Paladin/Crusader rehash.
DITTO to that I am melting into a happy pile of lard even as we read this!!
TAKE ME MONEYYYYY!!! /throws 20’s at screen/ :rolleyes:
Thank you… thank you so much. You fill my heart with such joy. May the gods keep you in their favor.
only just noticed the misadventure 145. bit late to the party i guess, but “yay”.
that “captain america” skill instantly reminded me of my old world of warcraft paladin. i probably never spent more time with any other video game and the paladin was my most played toon with something like 200 days net playtime on that toon alone
if i had to take a guess, paladin will be oathkeeper & inquisitor. i mean, the inquisitor already has auras as exclusive skill and a paladin doesn’t feel complete without an aura.
also, IIRC in the old school D&D game “baldurs gate 2”, inquisitor was actually one of the subtypes of the paladin class.
i guess demo+OK could be templar. i think most “templar” stuff we have in the game now has some conneciton with demo skills, so that would make sense.
seems likely that OK+NB will be the “dervish”.
not sure about any of the others.
Aha I wasn’t aware that they are already testing FG.
Wasn’t expecting to find hints in grimtools, but stuff popped up in my mind suddenly, so just did a quick search:
yeah that’s the best news of the day
well i wouldn’t say it helps much honestly