Do groble kills and beastkin kills count towards any faction’s Infamy?
If not, it kinda sounds like a pretty cool opportunity for another faction…?
I was just thinkin the other night, “I’ve mercilessly slaughtered…well, generations of these dudes. That’s gotta piss somebody off.”
I was thinking the same thing. I don’t think it would take too much work to make Beasts/beastkin a faction.
Maybe in the expansion? Idk.
The biggest problem with this is that there is no political unity nor central leadership among beastkin. Why does a slith care if some groble got slaughtered? Why would one groble clan care if another was wiped out? If anything they’d have fewer rivals. Factions are organized along political lines, not racial ones.
Yeah, I could see that, from a story decision standpoint that is…especially when it comes to different beastkin types (grobles and slith). Maybe that’s what the devs/writers were thinking?
In the case of grobles though, there could be some sort of hierarchy in place or seat of power somewhere. It would make sense if some leader got mad that all his subordinates were getting wrecked. I guess it just all depends on what they had in mind for the story and setting in regards to the semi-intelligent-critter-peeps.
I’d love to add a particular beastkin faction that I’ve thought would be neat to have. I’ve got a background sketched out, but it depends on how powerful the modding tools are and how much pain would be involved. I agree though that having a general beastkin faction wouldn’t really work.
How would a flesh hulk in Fork Ikon know about the Rotting Soldier you killed in Burrwitch Outskirts?
I think it makes enough sense-- I mean, the different beasts and beastkin don’t fight each other, do they? They maintain a peaceful existence with eachother.
Why not have some sort of Mother Nature-y Nemesis spawn? That’s really the only thing you would have to change. Since you already get Positive rep for killing beasts.
I mean would it make PERFECT logical sense? Maybe not. But it’s totally doable.
Maybe the flesh hulk doesn’t know or care. But there does seem to exist an Aetherial central leadership that does know and care. In this case, the flesh hulk and rotting soldier are politically connected not by choice but by force. There is no such force nor any sort of voluntary political affiliation between slith and grobles.
Even a pure groble faction could have problems. We already see a non-groble Dranghoul appear to hold dominion over grobles at Tyrant’s Hold. And that Beronath hound boss at Craig’s Crag literally looking over a bunch of groble as if he were ruling them. In this case, who’s the real boss? How would the groble clans of Craig’s Crag be politically affiliated with those of Tyrant’s Hold? And what of the clans of Burrwitch? Who rules them?
It’s pretty clear the grobles are, perhaps by nature, given to warlordism/sectarianism. We’re probably not going to see a “Groble Shogun” who unites the clans and dispels any outside influence.
I don’t know about any actual complicated political structure being needed to consider a nemesis option. I mean, if the beastkin suddenly notice a single, random human going around annihilating every kind of beastkin indiscriminately, I’d think it was high time for a temporary alliance. Heck, for fun they could even set it up so that the Beastkin Nemesis spawns one of each kind in one super encounter, instead of a singular boss.
I think I read somewhere that there are different tribes of grobles (hence the different locations/markings) and that they’re not exactly friendly with each other.
But they still don’t fight eachother.
Aren’t Mogdrogen the parton god of all beasts and beastkin? :undecided:
Why does undead have a faction then? What sorf of political goals and organization do these mindless monstrositys have? Why do a skeleton in Old Arkovia care about death of some ghouls in Tomb of Korvak? Is it even capable of caring? Not that im complaining about undead having a faction.
From what I can tell from lore, they at least have shared cultural heritage (Oligarchic-era Arkovian) and fate (cursed immortality). The Undead and Rovers have a beef apparently because of a schism long ago when King Rhowan abdicated the throne and became a tree hugging hobo. His followers became the Rovers. The Arkovians who stayed in the city followed the Oligarchs and eventually became Undead thanks to Uroboruuk.
As the Writings of Rolderathis suggest, the curse reached even Arkovian diaspora who rejected the Oligarchs but did not follow King Rhowan. This helps explain some of the geographic dispersion of Undead. Although I don’t see any explanation as to why ‘Rolderathic’ Undead would be politically affiliated with Oligarchic Undead. This might be an oversight by Crate.
But at least in a general sense, the Undead are by and large politically ruled by the Oligarchs.
I definitely agree. It’s a small letdown that Beasts don’t count for a negative faction, considering that everything else does - it’s almost as if the devs just couldn’t come up with a Nemesis for them.
The difficulty in justifying it via lore is really not that high. Beasts can be assigned as all the natural horrors of the world that got riled up after the Grim Dawn and need to be put down. As for the Nemesis? A rogue previous avatar of Mogdrogen, perhaps, something inhumanoid, maybe a briarthorn. He’s the god of beasts and also a grade-AAA+ asshole, it’s not unlikely that if a chunk of his consciousness got tainted at some point, it would go on to be the patron of all the things that aren’t human, demon, or aetherial. There’s the justification for both the Nemesis and for why if you farm the Dermapteran fields for ten hours, Mistborn are going to throw more heroes at you.
Mogdrogen is sacred to the Rovers. If a beastkin faction were to center around him, would killing his followers piss off the Rovers as well?
Well, the beasts did get riled after the Grim Dawn, and hard. Mogdrogen is a cryptic asshole, so who knows if that really is him ruling over the beasts, or something else that seems to be him. Your reputation with the Rovers not going down can hint to any of many things, which is in tune with how… Mogdrogen is a cryptic asshole. No direct answers necessary.
yeah, that’s where my idea all started… just a small letdown/missed opportunity I thought. Especially with Grobles, considering I’d killed so dang many of them.
Also, I’d just like to throw this word out there for posterity… “Grob-pocalypse”
Im supporting any faction idea wich give me more thinks to do/farm 