Icetusk could use some extra %WD on Avalanche

With the wave WPS fix most other Ava/SS/Upheaval items got some extra WD to compensate, but Icetusk didn’t receive any, so Avalanche-based Icetusk build is currently hit very hard.

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GT, rav / SR times? Icetusk evoker was swimming in excessive stats beforehand. “Build is bad” without any numbers or methodology behind those numbers isn’t a good discussion starting point.

I didn’t time it but the build couldn’t facetank Rav so it’s definitely not getting any impressive timings. Single target dummy DPS peaked at ~1.7m pre PTR changes.

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First off, I’m jealous of that portent (I haven’t seen one drop yet and I’ve been slamming ascendant)

Secondly, Icetusk Evoker is going to be the limiting factor for how much Icetusk can be buffed due to the power of nightforged set.

I rejiggled my evoker and it’s hovering around 40s ravager with double TDM pot (capable of running this comfortably in full altar). SR times are 4-4:30 with double TDM pot (again, very comfortable)

As is, icetusk + nightforged is 260% WD on avalanche. The more noteworthy detail about the setup is that you only need 5x avalanche ascends to reach 100% chance. There is some room for Icetusk avalanche to be buffed, but I doubt it’s going to be enough to lift the veilwalker without breaking evoker. Putting icetusk to +100%WD avalanche seems fine, though for icetusk veilwalker you’d be better off asking for improvements on other items rather than asking for icetusk to be buffed to the moon.

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I got weirdly lucky with the portent. IIRC I got it before even getting my first Scarmaker/Dreadchill Mark. Actually dropped a second one and I still cannot drop a Frostdread Cuirass yet :sweat_smile:

Yeah I saw the Evoker build and it looked insanely strong. I think Nightforged Evoker in general is just very strong atm, alternate builds with Deathshriek or DW Chillflame look very good too. Honestly I’m not sure how exactly to balance it without pushing Evoker even further too much, but since almost every other weapons supporting wave skills got rebalanced with the bug fix, maybe moving some power from the set to the weapon (maybe also some other weapons used in other Evoker builds that might get affected)? Right now Nightforged is getting an extra 10% proc chance and 16% DR buff from the PTR.

I would not say nightforged icetusk evoker is all that strong offensively at the moment. 40s ravager with double TDM pot is on the slower side of things. The %DR on the set proc is mostly irrelevant because every mastery combination that’s supported by the set is going to end up with a larger number due to Onslaught or Censure.

Again, if you want avalanche veilwalker to do significantly better, look at what other items can be improved to support that.

While I also want Avalanche veilwalker to do better, I do kinda hope Icetusk itself gets buffed because it just feels like a great weapon conceptually for any avalanche builds (ava mods + passthrough on onslaught feels really nice) and can be used beyond veilwalker/evoker. Probably could use extra buffs on the inq/soldier side too, haven’t seen builds utilizing those parts much.

Maybe I can hope some buffs on Scarmakers/Dreadchill Mark, but it’s probably going to be limited by Wight Frost’s Edge veilwalker too :smiling_face_with_tear: