Just theorycrafting here: Burn

So I’m thinking of my next build. Like always trying something new with skills I haven’t tried before. This time the two main skills are:

Blackwater Cocktail & Sigil of Consumption

Then considering Doom Bolt. I do not want to use Curse of Frailty or Blood of Dreeg.

Will Sigil of Consumption be enough sustain on its own?

Kinda going with the theme can I make a fire retaliation focus?

https://grimcalc.com/build/1009-Xqor9T

For the skills that is currently on 1/? must still decide where to put the last points. Probably Temper for the armor and retaliation?

For now no specific equipment in mind, but there’s lot of stuff with +fire and +burn I never had a use for previously.

Devotion wise:
Fissure goes to BWC
Flame Torrent to Thermite mines

What would be the best skill to proc Eldritch Fire?

Is worth it going Wendigo for SoC? Anything else suggested for SoC?

I’m not sure Sigil is really worthwhile. I’d suggest maybe considering one point in Hellhound and maxing Hellfire. It’ll buff you, and offer a handy distraction. You could also use it to proc a devotion if you’d like. Curse of Frailty is also worth considering. And I’m not 100% sure you really need Possession. I’d suggest something more like this. http://grimcalc.com/build/1009-DEUJKk Not sure on the devotions… Personally I’d be heading for Torch, but that’s more a matter of preference I think. I don’t really think the fire ret will be a huge deal in the end though. Hellfire will add some for you, but… Generally I’d treat it like a small additional damage source, not really a huge focus.

12 point just for Hellfire isn’t really worth it since Witchfire and Possession give 2-3 times the return for the same points. ’

@op You can make a sigil spam build, but it won’t really be a burn build, as much as a fire/chaos build. You also want Blood of Dreeg and Flashbang. If you want it to be a burn build, you’ll probably focus entirely on Cocktail, and have your second class (be it Occultist or Arcanist) just there for buffs. If you’re intent on Pyromancer, just grab 10/10 vulnerability and 16/16 blood of dreeg and 12/12 aspect of the guardian and then you’re good to go.

Forgot to mention I’m considering using a shield or is that crazy considering something like Aldanar’s Vanity as an offhand?

It’s never really wrong to use a shield. Using shields on everything is mainly a crucible thing, but you can use a shield as long you don’t have something that requires a caster focus, 2h weapon, or dual-wield weapons.

Their chaos damage on BWC but the idea for possession is maxing the vitality and chaos on SoC which in turn maximize the sustain and ADcTH on SoC+Wendigo?

Wendigo is fixed heal

You can check my conjurer for more about doom bolt, sigil totem etc.

If he’s trying to focus Fire and Burn, Witchfire and Possession aren’t going to give ANY return. And Hellfire offers Fire Ret, which the OP specifically mentioned he wanted.

Those points aren’t worth it regardless. He’s asking for too many things.

I agree. But Hellfire isn’t a waste if he focuses on his stated goals, IE, Fire and Burn. His trying to add a significant chaos damage source isn’t going to go well for him with his current intended setup.

Take IK set, WB gloves, warpfire, Ulz Pyro relic, and some nice off hand, bind eldrich fire to CoF, elemental storm to flashbangs and you can finish ultimate w/o any other skill :wink:

Tho your devotion setup sucks :slight_smile:

What do you mean?

The ADctH % is fixed i.e. 35% at level 1 of Wendigo’s Mark. But it is 35% of the damage dealt by Wendigo’s Mark. On a new character with no vitality damage % increase it is 122 damage i.e. 35% of 122. But on a character with damage % increase for example it is as follows (at Wendigo’s Mark level 1):

35% of 427 (without aura’s)
35% of 592 (with possession)

Therefore possession (or chaos/vitality buff auras) will indirectly increase the amount of ADctH (fixed %) from SoC and Wendigo’s mark because the damage will increase?

If not, please explain why

I misread, thought you were referring to totem somehow. It’s all good. I use mark with the conjurer i posted too

I think Hellfire is a good idea. It’s fits with my build for two reasons:

  1. Burn
  2. It’s a skill I’ve never used before.

Could go flame torrent on the Hellhound and it will also benefit from Flamed Touched and flat fire damage from Enchanted Flint.

Id prefer Sorserer for pure Burn. For Pyro i suggest Burning poison setup :stuck_out_tongue:
http://grimcalc.com/build/1009-yWLfGX With Wyrm gloves, Infernal knight ,warpfire, Wretched tome and the rest of the gear to fix resistance.