Let's discuss making damage Conversion Better still

[ya1]

Just one quick question about beronath reforged as I’m just making a build using it and I want to make sure I got it right. So as I understand it now, that weapon will only convert offensive skills, devotions, etc. Everything that procs on block, hit etc. probably doesn’t get converted. So let’s say for example I pick light of empyrion constellation, the proc activates only when hit by melee attacks. It gives physical and fire dmg, as I understand fire dmg won’t get converted on a proc since it’s not an offensive one.

However the dmg on one of the nodes will get converted, I forgot which node exactly, but light of empyrion also has a node with fire dmg.

Am I correct?

Nope. Everything you mentioned is fully converted to phys.

[Ptirodaktill]

we’re discussing a theoretical change that will never happen, i think making spirit (and cunning) more appealing is also on the table.

To make spirit and cunning more appealing you need to switch bonuses they provide to something more appealing. Extra dmg is not appealing in current meta. Extra OA is even less appealing in current meta.

[Xervous]

To make spirit and cunning more appealing you need to switch bonuses they provide to something more appealing. Extra dmg is not appealing in current meta. Extra OA is even less appealing in current meta.

It’s not so much what they give as much as how much is given. If going full cunning was enough to offset the damage loss of shifting most of your devotions to defensive ones (OA and %damage wise) it would be an option. But as of current the most efficient way to boost health and DA without compromising juicy benefits in devotions or on gear is to pump physique.

Going full spirit in the absence of +% spirit is less than +400% damage and you know it’s going to cost a lot to make up the lost health and DA (2100 flat health and 420 flat DA). Solemn Watcher is roughly 150 DA for most builds, Wolverine is a bit less. That’s ten devotion points towards DA and we haven’t covered half the full benefits of 105 physique. Mix in the first three points of obelisk and it’s roughly even give or take… but that’s just putting you where you’d be at if you went full physique and didn’t take any of these devotions, nor slap on affixes or offbuild items to supplement the health deficiency.

Conversely there’s easy pairings of devotions that add up to 400% or so damage to most damage types. The devotions you would be taking if you weren’t sinking all your assets into making up DA and health. Ultos and Spear? oops that’s 360%. Show me where I can get 2k health and 400 DA from two T3 devotions.

Cunning, there’s an abundance of OA options sprinkled all around even before we consider that there are decreasing returns on this investment (and numerous builds are effortlessly above the softcap). Now the damage portion is noteworthy for some physical/pierce builds but ONLY when they are swimming in health and DA (having hit the rather lofty softcaps on those). Otherwise it’s just 420 flat OA, a stat that’s widely sprinkled around and rather easily sought up to its softcaps.