Looking for suggestions for a viable Ice Mage Build?

Hi everybody ! There is a viable beginner/SSF Rune of Hagarrad build? I love this skill :smiley:. I can’t find anything like this in beginner builds. Thank you for your answers/ builds

Hmmm… Pierce or Cold?


For Cold there’s this cool guide


but there are other ways to go about it for sure, for example


For Pierce best would be The Unseeing Gaze I think
(missing pieces got by transmuting other blue set pieces)

Malmouth Slicer

Yap cold build :smiley: Thank you! Very quickly and helpful reply :smiley:

There was this one linked in my thread

It’s pretty fast when you farm SR

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So, been playing it for some hours now and in Act two, where the main weapon might drop from certain places according to the guide: Trozan’s Ice Shard - A cold Warlock Beginner Guide. Which is the Spectral Bludgeon.

Now, there is different items the Lord of Lost Souls drops, the shield having the highest percentage. Which of course what he dropped the first time I killed him. So, lets try again and see what it drops, which was… nothing at all of the items under Notable Loot. Neither the third or forth time he dropped any of them.

I was level 25 (not sure about the Lord of the Lost Souls though, never thought of checking his level) but putting him as level 25 as well. I know it is all random but if looking at the Lord of the Lost Souls monster information in Grimtools Database, the Bulwark is 50%, Longsword, Bludgeon and Battle Axe each 10% and War Shield at 8%. Is it right to assume that that would be a 88% of him to drop one of those items and 12% chance to drop nothing ? (Well, part from other random items but which are not under Notable Loot?)

Just curious since it seemed for me, it was more the other way around ! :rofl: And also wondering if I should give it a few more tries or just leave it and continue my adventures towards Homestaed instead. :crazy_face:

Better buy Spectral Bludgeon from Marris Kas
https://www.grimtools.com/map/markers/merchants/6355

You can enter such dungeon once and reset the vendor stock multiple times (usually by going back to previous level of the dungeon but sometimes there are some nuances to it) to farm good affixes on one skeleton key.


He’s more complicated. I think that the probability for him to drop nothing, since there are 3 separate drop pools, is as follows:

(1 - 50.05%) * (1 - 30%) * (1 - 8%) ~ 32%

Because these 3 drops are independent events.
You should be able to get multiple items too.
For example one item from each of the 3 groups but it would be pretty unlikely because just War Shield is already quite unlikely (8%)

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That sounds like good advice, think I head towards the Steps of Torment and see what he has. Although with a little bit of luck (maybe 2% luck or even less ? :thinking: ), there is two persons in the Arkovian Undercity that might drop it as well, so when I run past them who knows ? :rofl:

Ahh I see. So when killing the Lord of Lost Souls, there is a 50% chance for the Bulwark alone, and a 10% chance for one of the other 3 weapons and then a 8% chance for the War Shield but each is a separate event so if you are really, REALLY, lucky, you can get all three dropping at once ?

Well, that would explain the miserable 4 runs I had then ! :rofl:

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The mace also drops from some random ghosts, by just clearing the cave before the first Rovers camp I could get one every 2 or 3 runs, on average :thinking:

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I went back in to the cave to clear the whole one to see if a random ghost dropped it and of course one did now, since the other times I just cleared the way to the boss and then left ! :crazy_face:

Killed the boss again, after following Monceaux advice that even a random ghost might drop it and although the boss did not drop the mace I’m looking for his did drop these two items, and a blue actually ! :rofl:

I do have another question, in regards to the different levels of items. I have a lvl 8 Amulet that I’m liking (Putrid Necklace) if I want the next level of the medal, which is lvl 18 and then 32, for the boss to drop them, it has to be when I do a Elite run ? Since I am guessing as long as I am playing on Normal, the level area for Foggy Bank is not going to be above level 12, if I understand grimtools map correctly ?

Unfortunately yes :frowning: I was running Dreeg’s Evil :eye: and couldn’t get +1 Occ on Veteran because of this, only on Elite because it gets this bonus at higher levels.

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@tqFan I just went to Elite with my first character since I completed the whole game with that one some time ago. To check out the cave and what level the monster happened to be. But…

I noticed two things. One is that I redid the Menu Bar with spells etc, but it did not remember it when I went to the game menu and reloaded the game for a second run. Also, items that was dropped and in my back pack or personal safe with the smuggler was not longer there either. BUT, an item I put in shared stash was still there.

But the weirdest part, (well, if either of the above belongs to that category that is), was that I can access Elite with my second character which only done part of Act 2 so far ? :thinking:

Any idea what make caused this… well bug I guess ??

Do you play with Cloud Saves? How to - Move your saves from Steam cloud to Grim Dawn's default location.
The issues you’re having sound like :cloud: :poop:

That is the case when you play Custom game but I don’t think you do. I haven’t heard of such bug.

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Nope, no cloud save but figured it out. My first character was not set to be ‘In Mod’ in GDStash, hence it did not save properly. Once I clicked the box and saved the character it all back to saving things as it should be.

Yes, I am playing Custom Game due to I am using Grim UI for extra stash and back pack space.

So the first was me being a dingus :crazy_face: and the other part I was not aware of that it made all difficult levels available if playing a Custom Game using a mod. :blush:

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I’m the same and I don’t like it. Check out my bug report:

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Well, that’s a bit strange decision but if that’s who they want it to be, then I guess that’s what it is.

On another note, the mob drops level 70 items so of no use for me, guess I just have to pick other stuff to wear once it not useful any longer, surprisingly it still is though. On the other hand it is a MI item and not a normal item, which the level 70 was that dropped.

Out of curiosity, what is the lowest level you reached Elite with ?

I only recently starting leveling more deliberately and also after a long break (ssf) and my recent was with DEE was quite fast.
I entered Elite after Veteran at level 53 and Ultimate at level 71.

But you don’t have to play like that of course. Play as you feel like.
Also it depends on a character / build.

What items are you talking about? I don’t quite get what you mean.
I don’t get why 70 level items are of no use for you. It depends on item slot for example.
And also if you’re not dying / have enough damage, it might not be worth it to bother with changing items.

Ohh I intend to do that, I was just curious how fast one could get to Elite. After all, the Grim Tools Item Database shows items from level 18 which can only be gotten if you on Elite level, hence the curiosity.

I just made a small link to the Grim Tools item a few posts further up earlier, but it was this item.

Just wanted to see if the mob would drop a similar item but with a bit better stats, especially since items from level 32 has a +1 to all skills in Occultist. But it isn’t a big deal though. :crazy_face:

The item was for my Ice Mage which is level 32 at present. I was just fooling around with the other character to see how things working on the different levels of difficulty.

Right now I am a bit of a glass canon, might have to put some points into Maiven’s Sphere of Protection as suggested by the guide that Monceaux made. Think I got a couple items with +2 for said skill too, but have to re check next time I’m playing. But saying that I have not, surprisingly, died yet, so lets say I am good at running around in circles and ‘snipping’ the more dangerous monsters ! :rofl:

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Just checking because you’re mixing characters and I’m not sure anymore - you’re not using this Putrid Necklace on your Cold Warlock, right? :slight_smile:

Btw you can link your current char if you’d like

Actually I am at the moment, due to I took one point in Iskandra’s Elemental Exchange and also having two other items that has +2 to the same skill. Add that with the +8% Offensive Ability that the amulet also gives it adds up, so for the moment yes, I’m using said Amulet.

Here is a link to my character at present. Level 32 Warlock.

It most likely going to be changing as I progress in the game. I do have a couple items of the Easter Set once I reach level 58 as an example.

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It’s fine, I thought that maybe you’re using Blood of Dreeg and this necklace at the same time and converting your damage to Acid :slight_smile: