Missing builds workshop

[DeputyChuck]

In a previous tread where we discussed builds that were never done or thought of before, @tqfan, @evil_baka and I theorycrafted an Acid PRM Warlock and an Acid Deceiver, neither of which were in the build compendium. That gave me the idea of making a list of damage type and class combination to see what has never been done.

Let’s theorycraft some of those oddballs, and maybe we’ll find something new, fun and powerful… who knows ?

Build must be good enough to clear campaign: (Complete a Roguelike dungeon, crucible 170, Shattered Realms 50 or kill Korvaak)
If a build has 2 damage type, it checks both boxes. Elemental builds check all 3.

If you are aware of something that isn’t featured here or just made a new build, please post a link to it and I’ll add it to the chart

Physical Fire Cold Lightning Acid Pierce Bleeding Vitality Aether Chaos

Apostate											Apostate
Archon											Archon
Battlemage											Battlemage
Blademaster											Blademaster
Cabalist											Cabalist
Commando											Commando
Conjurer											Conjurer
Death Knight											Death Knight
Deceiver											Deceiver
Dervish											Dervish
Defiler											Defiler
Druid											Druid
Elementalist											Elementalist
Infiltrator											Infiltrator
Mage Hunter											Mage Hunter
Oppressor											Oppressor
Paladin											Paladin
Purifier											Purifier
Pyromancer											Pyromancer
Reaper											Reaper
Ritualist											Ritualist
Saboteur											Saboteur
Sentinel											Sentinel
Shieldbreaker											Shieldbreaker
Sorcerer/ess											Sorcerer/ess
Spellbinder											Spellbinder
Spellbreaker											Spellbreaker
Tactician											Tactician
Templar											Templar
Trickster											Trickster
Vindicator											Vindicator
Warder											Warder
Warlock											Warlock
Warlord											Warlord
Witchblade											Witchblade
Witch Hunter											Witch Hunter

Fun stats:
Most common type: Fire 36/36
Least common type: Pierce 16/36

Completed classes (10/10) : Apostate, Paladin, Deceiver, Infiltrator, Dervish
Least complete: Elementalist 3/10

[fordprefect]

I have an aether spellbreaker and a physical defiler which I haven’t posted yet. I also did publish a fire reaper

[tqFan]

• my Chaos Apostate: [1.1.8.0] Chaos Ravenous Earth / Oblivion Apostate | Crucible of the Stars 5:27

• Vit Archon? Come one - it’s a dual Vitality RR class [1.1.9.1] Bloodhail - Wildblood Vitality Archon [SR100] [4.50 Crucible] [All Celestials]
  Rogheist too [Feedback] Rotgheist set

• Physical Cabalist - not a problem to make, with Beronath and Gladiator belt converting Chaos and Vitality damage. You can make Sigil + Re builds, Oblivion etc
  also people made Physical Rah’zin Caba . I cannot find links now but you can safely tick it off imo

• Chaos Commando [1.1.8.1] 1,900 Base Regen Obsidian Juggernaut Commando [SR 85, Avatar, Crucible Video]

• Aether Commando - hmmm seems doable with this Fleshwarped Core
  Found it! https://www.grimtools.com/calc/dVbGkY4Z @Maska322 linked it I think

• Physical FoI Deceiver by me https://www.grimtools.com/calc/nZoQvmk2
  I’m sure there are others

• Acid Deceiver by me (other did it too), very standard build https://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jRAYx2

• Aether Dervish by @TomoDaK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apu4pB_ZyJk

• Physical Defiler @Evil_Baka https://www.grimtools.com/calc/eVL13q6Z

• Chaos Defiler seems pretty normal [1.1.6.2] The unlikely hero - Chaos Ravenous Earth/Mines Defiler

• Acid Infiltrators by @Evil_Baka we werer talking about https://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqEoPvZ
  https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4NOyLnPV

• Chaos PB Infiltrator should be easy to make, I cannot find a link but people make these

• Acid Oppressor… very standard build https://www.grimtools.com/calc/O2Gq5ynZ

• Acid Paladin by @eardianm https://www.grimtools.com/calc/p25az1o2
  It’s writte by single L!

• Chaos/Vitality Paladin Voidsoul Foi/Aegis!!! [1.1.4.1-1.1.5.0] DEVOID OF SOUL - Voidsoul FoI/Aegis Paladin (c+) (sr+)

• Pierce Paladin https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNk71r6N

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Got tired, I’ll try make another post with 2nd part some another time.

[DeputyChuck]

Added @fordprefect and @tqFan build lists (Also added Bleed Paladin, as I remember I have one of those )

Paladin has a COMPLETE list

[vlan]

I am still waiting for the day I see a cold spellbinder. Great defenses, easy to convert 100% aether to cold, CDR (!), BH is a cold nuke but there’s also cold DE.

The RR however…

[DeputyChuck]

Do it !

This is about what can be done, not what can qualify for Grimsheet
If it can clear campaign, it’s good enough

[tqFan]

@DeputyChuck

• Pierce Spellbreaker by @Valinov https://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZRw1P4N

• Aether Light’s Defender Vindicator by me https://www.grimtools.com/calc/D2p9AjyV

• Bleed Witch Hunter by @Relinfearous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmBtaoKgqZk

• Chaos PS Vindicator @eardianm should have this

• Fire Trickster sounds like something I’ve done hmmm https://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2mAgQW2
  (gear fininshed) but @TomoDaK wrote he had one. That’s a pretty normal build.
  Btw I’ve noticed that me and Tomo make the same meme builds regularly.

• Physical Spellbinder [1.1.9.0] Eastern Devastation Spellbinder - meme physical sky projectiles (SR 75-76)
  one could also make Physical AAR / Obliteration Spellbinder or something like that

[edit] Oh, @Nery is coming. We can pretty much tick out the whole table then

[Nery]

I am still waiting for the day I see a cold spellbinder. Great defenses, easy to convert 100% aether to cold, CDR (!), BH is a cold nuke but there’s also cold DE.

The RR however…

I have done cold Spellbinder with items with -RR to Omen, together with Trozan. But I can’ find the link.

[edit] Oh, @Nery is coming. We can pretty much tick out the whole table then

What’s required? The thing is I don’t keep backups on most of my all builds (my hard was formatted) but maybe I can help?

EDIT: I saw physical Shiedlbreaker isn’t marked, I have done three separate SB’s - two casters and one dual wield melee converting full FS damage to physical via Bero sword+1x Kilrian weapon.

The best one is this: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2gmzxvZ

Also I have tried pierce BH Reaper and physical Apostate (maybe tomorrow will reproduce them).

[Archmagister]

To get this right, those WITHOUT an X are those to look at?

[eardianm]

I mean even if they have an X doesn’t mean they couldn’t be built in a considerably different way.

Will pull up the couple I’m tagged on tomorrow and anything else I’ve actually played but not posted

[desioner]

Opposite, those with an X have been done.

[x1x1x1x2]

I suggest making a separate column for elemental instead of checking all three elements cause elemental builds work differently than most single element builds especially in devotion pathing. Also I guess different columns for retal and pets too.

Some not really missing builds but I can’t find links.

Acid Blademaster - pretty easy. Discount dervish mode with cadence instead of RF. Pretty sure I saw @banana_peel make one.

Physical Spellbinder - is STRONG. I’m talking sub-5 cruci SR100 strong. Look for it in banana’s youtube. He’s got vids from 1.1.8.0 and not much changed since then. Phys shieldbreaker is decent too. I’m sure both were in grimsheet when it first launched but maybe grey and tqfan removed them due to lack of updates

[vlan]

I noticed there wasn’t a cold Ritualist/Vindicator on there. Weird, these are totally doable.

Cold Ritualist basically builds itself with Morg’s set + Winter king sword or Alkamos Scythe. 2H BH or Cold PS. You could also do cold savagery with korba, since necro has reaping strike/necrotic edge. Has this really never been done? I am disappoint.

Cold Vindicator has good RR period. You can do plenty of ranged shenanigans with cold PS/Savagery. RoH would also support this playstyle pretty well.

[Willnoword]

Physical Apostate? Here we are [1.1.9.1] Flame Reversible - Physical Flames of Ignaffar Apostate [sr+][mi][vid].

[Evil_Baka]

I’m gonna guess this is more of a “for fun” kind of thing rather than any requirements like testing and passing certain content for a build to be approved

• Aether Tactician. Levelled and tested: [1.1.9.1] Serving the Light

  • https://www.grimtools.com/calc/qNYrWoB2 for my final Legendary setup without navigating the tabs.
  • https://www.grimtools.com/calc/62aRAMXV for what i’d estimate is BiS.

• Fire pets Ritualist. Tested: [1.1.9.0] Deacons of the Deep.

  • Don’t know whether you’ll want to seperate pets out like @x1x1x1x2 surmised above as they allow for different skill conversions and follow different methodologies with regards to building.

• Pierce Mage Hunter

  • Tested: [1.1.8.1] Gildam Enigma.
  • Untested: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/0V00mLyV

• Pierce Commando. Tested: [1.1.7.2] Antiquated Armaments

• Cold Pyromancer. Untested: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNk7XvBN

[DeputyChuck]

Updated the chart with everything submited that had a link or something along the lines of “X made one but I can’t find the link” since they were posted to begin with, they must have been at least as good as we need.

I did not include those that sounded like “XYZ should be easy to make” … for now
Making those is the whole point Get to work !

[edit] Oh, @Nery is coming. We can pretty much tick out the whole table then

LOL

What’s required? The thing is I don’t keep backups on most of my all builds (my hard was formatted) but maybe I can help?

I mean, if it is decent enough to clear campaign, that’s enough. We’re not looking for top performers, just builds that work .

To get this right, those WITHOUT an X are those to look at?

X have been done, let’s try and check the entire board.

I suggest making a separate column for elemental instead of checking all three elements cause elemental builds work differently than most single element builds especially in devotion pathing.

I have to draw the line somewhere though. This is already extensive enough for just a fun exercise. Many elemental builds will use gear and devotions of a specific element since they’re all boosted anyway. And there is no rational to have builds that have 2 damage types (pierce + bleed for example) check 2 boxes, while elemental builds having its own separate box, and then having to build with all 3 elements separately. I get that they are built differently, but so are melee and pet builds.

Also I guess different columns for retal and pets too.

This is also one of those place where I needed to draw a line. I decided that “pets” and “retal” were just like “Melee AA” or “caster” : just a different way to apply said damage. If I make separate entries for each, this chart could stretch to infinity
We could have a very extensive chart where every playstyle + every element + every class is listed, but that sounds more like grindy homework than fun.

in short, not a bad idea in and of itself, but I had to draw a line somewhere, and “applied damage types” is where I drew it.

I’m gonna guess this is more of a “for fun” kind of thing rather than any requirements like testing and passing certain content for a build to be approved

I mean, anyone could throw together something in 5 minutes and call it a build… at the same time, it’s still a build if it doesn’t make it to SR75.

What I think is a reasonable benchmark is campaign (Ultimate).
To clear campaign, your build needs to be reasonably thought-through and focused, but not so optimised that they need multiple impossible MIs.
With stringier requirement, some of those combinations would be downright impossible anyway, so let’s keep it “casual” but still “efficient”

If your build can dispose of Korvaak or it can clear a roguelike dungeon, it’s absolutely good enough for this list.

[DeputyChuck]

Has this really never been done? I am disappoint.

Yep, that’s exactly what this chart aims to do.

Challenge accepted ?

[tqFan]

Imo the point of this thread is to get to the most meme [class, damage type] combinations and then have fun making them work. For now we rule out those that obviously work and we will end up with questionable ones that will need maybe even video proofs to be accepted.

Cold Ritualist basically builds itself with Morg’s set + Winter king sword or Alkamos Scythe. 2H BH or Cold PS. You could also do cold savagery with korba, since necro has reaping strike/necrotic edge. Has this really never been done? I am disappoint.

Well that’s because everyone just chooses Reapers, Tricksters, Blademasters, Druids, Spellbreakers for this.

[Valinov]

Pierce / physical belgo apostate https://www.grimtools.com/calc/DV9OYaPN
physical belgo infiltrator https://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZq0YQ5V
chaos/fire hybrid eor shieldbreaker https://www.grimtools.com/calc/wV1OWdPN
acid guardians + tss + acid purge templar https://www.grimtools.com/calc/62aR3JxV
pierce/bleeding trickster https://www.grimtools.com/calc/0V0mlMRZ
pierce/bleeding witchhunter https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2EE7Bb2
physical rah’zin witchhunter https://www.grimtools.com/calc/lNk7rY6N

[DeputyChuck]

video proofs to be accepted.

Speaking of which. I don’t know how tedious it could be to run through Campaign for the sole purpose of making video proof for a meme build vs just SR or Crucible…

So any one of there is fine (Ultimate) :
Korvaak
SR50
Crucible 170 (no matter the time)
Any of the roguelike dungeons.

Sounds good ?