My Occultist+X Builds <3

I love the Occult Tree so I planned out how I’d like my builds to look for each Occult hybrid build. They are listed from most wanted to least wanted. I can’t wait to make my Witch Hunter. I already made a pyro, I think I’ll like it a LITTLE more than a Warlock but probably wont be a HUGE fan of either in the end…

http://grimcalc.com/build/1009-4WBarm - Witch Hunter (2h Melee/Dual Wield Melee)
http://grimcalc.com/build/1009-Kowmy2 - Conjurer (Probably Ranged)
http://grimcalc.com/build/1009-0SyBz9 - Witch Blade (2h or Sword and Shield)
http://grimcalc.com/build/1009-oDdy2t - Pyro (Dual Wield Ranged)
http://grimcalc.com/build/1009-yeF4E2 - Warlock (Dual Wield Ranged)

Did you, uh… Want advice on them or something? Or just wanted to share?

Mainly just sharing. BUT if anyone has any advice I won’t discourage them. :stuck_out_tongue:

I have a question, what are your main attack skill for each one ?

Okay. Um.

Witch Hunter, I assume you’re going Shadow Strike and Default Attacks for the WPS? And Poison? That’s my best guess. Because of that, I’d have to say that Solael’s isn’t giving you much at all. I’d refurbish those points to the WPS…Probably along with all but 1 of the points in Blade Barrier. And max Night’s Chill, for the RR on Poison/Acid. Assuming, OFC, that my understanding of the build’s intent was correct.

Conjurer is clearer, Vit Savagery. In which case, I’d dump the Brute Force line, and shove it into Vulnerability, and Savagery’s line. You might also want to compare Wendigo Totem to Sigil of Consumption. It’s mostly a preference thing, either work just fine IMO.

The Witchblade… Cadence-ish? Not sure. One point in Cadence, none in the modifiers. Yours builds are very spread out for some reason, just bits and pieces of points in things. If you’re going Vit/Chaos Cadence, dump the WPS from Soldier, Decorated Soldier, and Fighting Spirit. Shove the points instead into maxing Cadence’s entire line. It’s 100% worth trying to hit max ultimate ranks on each piece of Cadence. And just one point in Warcry is a pretty small radius compared to its max, feels pretty bad IMO. But that’s a matter of preference.

For the Pyromancer, Chaos Fire Strike? If it is, I’d drop Curse of Frailty entirely. It’s just not worth it, since only half your damage will be helped by it, and you aren’t using the defensive portion. Shove them into anything you’ve already got, you’ve got all the right things already.

I have NO idea what you’re doing with the Warlock. Presumably something involving Chaos. IDK. I’d suggest, generally, dropping to one point in Mirror and Arcane Will. That’s about all I CAN suggest though, as I’ve no idea what attack you’re trying to use. Presumably some granted skill, I guess.

That’s just my opinion, working with limited information. If it helped, yay, if not… Well, just ignore me then.

Besides what’s already been said:

Witch Hunter: I can’t tell if you’re going Chaos/Vit or Poison. Need more info here. Consider pushing Nightblade for Execution and drop Whirling Death. Belgothian’s Shears will be good enough.

Conjurer: Heart of the Wild is cheap on points for a big boost in survivability. Consider it.

Witchblade: I would swap the points from Squad Tactics to Field Command and drop Menhir’s Will down in points. 16 is too many, 4-6 is where i leave it at but it’s up to you.

Pyromancer: Consider Flashbang for CC or Thermite Mine for RR. Move points in Temper to Flame Touched and drop Temper down in points.

Warlock: I’m with Nssheepster here. Gonna need more info on what else you plan on using :rolleyes:. Also, i’de pick up Nullification with a point, very helpful skill to have on hand.

Could be for proccing low % devotions. War Cry proccs Eldritch Fire 100% of the time for instance.

Do you mean what weapon Type?

Can you give a short description of what you envision these builds doing? That’ll be the best way to help since a few of them are kind of all over the place.

I’ve TRIED to build all of them to aid the occult side of the build. So I went for as much vitality/Physical damage as possible

For each of these builds, what is your favorite skill? That might be a better place to start.

Yes, weapon type, main damage type(s) (vitality if I understand correctly), skills you want to focus on,
So pretty much as Roger said, what you want them to do

EDIT : I saw that you modified the first post, you’ll need to be a little more specific

First off, I really like the Occultist for Solael’s witchfire, Blood of Dreeg, and I REALLY like Vitality and Vitality Decay damage. I’ve heard Vitality and Physical damage are the best in the game.

Build explanations.

Witch Hunter - Shadow Strike sounds really cool. Pneumatic Burst, Blade Barrier + Blood of Dreeg for great healing.

Conjurer - Devour Swarm to aid Vitality damage, Savagery as a main atk because why not. Wendigo totem for healing and Vitality damage. Brute force to give me more dps

Witch Blade - Just a tanky build. I basically threw points in everything that seemed really good.

Pyromancer - This is a pretty standard build from what I understand. Just need to make some fixes like removing frailty I guess…

Warlock - I just put points in everything that seemed like it’ll raise my defense

Seeman: Yea I just built each one around keeping me alive and raising Vitality, Decay and physical damage

EDIT: What does WPS mean?

No Vulnerability and Night’s Chill on a Witch Hunter? You’ll end up with a tons of damage broken hard against wall of resists. Strongest synergy of Witch Hunters is acid/poison damage and you should have all possible means to reduce that resistance.
Blade Barrier is 1-point ‘Oh shit!’ button unless you’re some sadomasochistic pervert who really enjoy doing nothing till all around hit him and suffer.

Overall your builds looks like a theorycrafting without any practice. You are free to go as you build them but you’ll end up suffering alot if you follow them strictly. They are too far from good. Actually they are more like random build from grimcalc :slight_smile:

WPS - weapon pool skills, autoprocs like Nightblade’s top line of skills.

p.s. there is a Devotion button in a grimcalc.

Ya. lol Idk about devotions too much yet.

But IF you have the time can one of you show me how to do a Vitality WitchHunter or Conjurer build if they’re even viable? Because that was my goal :confused:

I at least need to know what skills to put points in in the dual blade line for the witch hunter…

You’re mistaken about vitality being one of the best damage types. It’s often lower in numbers due to the healing it provides, and the fact that it has so much resistance reduction.

If you really want to focus on Vitality damage, you either want to make a caster conjurer, or you could make a silly melee vitality build. There’s at least one of those on this forum which I’ll edit into this post after I find it. Physical damage is limited almost entirely to Witchblade.

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46265&highlight=dual+wield+conjurer

I suggest that if you’re new to making builds, you copy other people’s builds until you have the experience/game knowledge to understand the theory behind why certain things are good and bad. That’ll keep you from creating a random trainwreck build with no real synergy or identity.

There’s also the Grim Dawn discord where you can find help in fixing up your builds. I suggest you join it and ask people why certain things are bad/good.

Ok Caster Conjurer sounds good. I’ll try googling one as well…
So I guess with the witch hunter I’ll focus on acid and poison and scrap my vitality idea lol…

In addition to the one linked by Roger (Ceno’s one) I can advise you this build : http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49951

Melee is also possible for conjurer (Sword and Board) : http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50655

and there might be a 2H build somewhere in the forum

So I guess with the witch hunter I’ll focus on acid and poison and scrap my vitality idea lol…

You can also focus on chaos damage as a Witch Hunter (with vitality as a second damage source)

It may looks like that build : http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51902%3Cbr%20/%3E

or this one : http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52394

Otherwise poison is the most solid choice, especially as a beginner : http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49047

Thanks SOOOOO much. I really appreciated this. And also everyone. You all helped so much. I cant wait to test these out!!!

https://grimcalc.com/build/1009-rXh6Yi - Poison/Acid Witch Hunter
https://grimcalc.com/build/1008-J73Rzy - Vitality Witch Hunter
https://grimcalc.com/build/StXjp1i - Conjurer (Poison/Vitality I believe…)

I’m loving these 3