single-target - still mid, drops off against small human Nemeses a lot, but if you can group up fat bosses it gets better (but riskier too of course)
Tank is pretty good (if you build it right), but Health is nowhere to be found. With two of Vitality greens and some 4% hp augments in gear only managed 15,8k hp.
Basically the same build but with less damage but more leech
Does more leech matter? From my brief experience with it not really, compare Ravager fights on both, both specs can take on several bosses in SR 30-31 already.
Conclusion
PRM feels much much better and more versatile. Ravager facetank is now possible but fight is still very sketchy and has low -ish success rate.
Single target damage is still mid at best
SR 30-31 clears are safe but slow ish as far as top synergetic builds go.
Crucible should be fast
Arcanum Sigilis is the same as Panetti wand but worse. It doesn’t add anything to Elemental/Invoker PRM specs. Weapon damage on PRM is gimmicky at best.
Suggestions
Add %rr to Proliferation. Proccing Ultos or Viper is extremely awkward on PRM builds (Viper needs 100% weapon damage to be applied fully). Going for Ultos just for %rr means losing %Fire damage. Aether PRM specs have no real access to %rr. Imo, it will really help since all PRM builds are single RR builds. Scaling can be 1-22%.
Fix the damage distribution on Invoker. Because of some old grudge Lightning part is still lower than Fire part. Example, Fire/Lightning distribution on a build with 200% more to Lightning damage:
Arcanum Sigilis is basically the same item as Panetti Wand but worse. I think its PRM mod can be moved to Temporal Arcblade for actual meaningful weapon damage scaling. And pistol can be reworked to have better Fire Strike mods (maybe physical/pierce to elemental conversion mod to some Inquisitor skill).
edit, side note/offtopic, just realized how confusing it is to already see SR 30 in written form @_@, gonna take some time to adjust to and not instantly get confused about/over performance perception
Well it is. Same Elemental damage, similiar points to Inquisitor, just worse than Wand. Basically two items, one is a bit worse serving the same Archetype - Elemental PRM.
What are those and why can’t they take Panetti Wand?
You got Spellgaze for adtch. Dual-wielding those Pistols for Panetti is suboptimal and basically yields the same build but with no cooldown reduction and less damage (so worse).
And I am not saying everyone should play only optimized PRM builds, I am saying that pistol doesn’t add any diversity or any real value. Dual wielding pistols while spamming Panetti doesn’t add anything except your caster will be all around worse performance wise but will look like a gunslinger (while not being a gunslinger).
If pistol would convert PRM’s damage to one damage type or give you a chance to fire second PRM projectile it would be an interesting item. But right now it’s just Panetti wand but with less damage and a bit more adtch.
Imo, weapon damage mod would be interesting on a two-hander.
I don’t think we should add or substract items by that logic. What if someone doesn’t have both Panetti wand and pistol, do we add third one-handed weapon that supports elemental PRM?
Maybe not, but you’re pretending the WD on the pistol doesn’t do anything, which is just not true. If you just have the wand you don’t even have any %WD on PRM and can’t trigger any weapon damage only effects, like life steal. If you do have the hood, the pistol doubles your %WD, doubling life steal while adding more.
Mine got better with the much increased lifesteal. And my damage was even slightly better. Not sure what to tell you. Not everyone plays the optimal build, or has the items (and time) to make one.
You can add whatever you want , but removing stuff is … very bad manners. It’d be fine if it was on a new game, but people have existing (valid) builds they put time in. Destroying those is not ok. It’ll piss me off for sure.
and it’s your right to do so. But you are not playing a different build by doing so, you are just playing the same build (elemental PRM) but worse. That’s my point.
I do, from Spellgaze.
Unfortunately it does not do much. If you calculate how much damage it adds it’s basically nothing. Can you increase your leech by having two pistols and Spellgaze on top? Sure. Will it make the build immortal or super leechy? Not really.
Look at my feedback videos. It already can (sketchily and with like 50% success rate) kill Ravager - biggest sustain check in the game. What would a spec with two pistols and Spellgaze do for a total of 90% weapon damage and added 16% leech? Well, not much, because a) you are losing -%rr from Invoker or Tome of Names; b) losing cooldown reduction which means longer mirror/null/ghoul recharges.
Not really an argument for the pistol. Pistol is the same drop as Panetti wand. Same as any Invoker piece as well. If it was a faction item I would understand the budget build concerns. But Arcanum Sigilis is as affordable as any other item.
EDIT: I am wrong here, turns out you can buy pistol’s blueprint at Vinelton sometimes which makes it more affordable in a way.
Happened before many times. And honestly I don’t think Zantai will remove PRM support from pistol. But imo having two similiar items for same type of skill, one a bit better, one a bit worse, both with same rarity doesn’t make sense. Why not give pistol Lightning PRM support and leave Elemental Panetti to wand?
should probably mention, (unless i missed it already being addressed)
the concern isn’t (just) removing it for dual wield, but you’re losing half your WD for no good reason, other than make Arcblade PRM supporting
Hence the “add dont’ subtract” - don’t advocated for something being removed that doesn’t need removing, just advocate for making Arcblade a prm weapon, ez
Arcblade becoming a PRM weapon doesn’t require Sigillis getting nerfed, rather simple.
From an theorycraft or optimization standpoint it can be argued how valuable the wd is, but it can’t be argued it’s helping more being there than if it were removed
Add aether to elemental global conversion on the gun as well to convert more arcanist flat, skill line flat, and devo procs. Arcblade WD is probably aether focused anyway, so they both have niches
Fwiw elemental devos and flat in them have improved since the last time I wanted to hurt myself testing prm, worth another swing on dual wield
*from a personal perspective, i really dont’ think the game needs more weapons with fire strike mods/support either - atleast not unless we go meme support, so this doesn’t have to be a “pure” fire strike weapon
(alternatively we can apply the same “add don’t subtract approach”; just separately ask the pistol gets whatever firestrike mods you feel is lacking/not making the existing fine enough - it doesnt have to replace PRM to do so)
Don’t change the gun! Lifesteal is far better than that Panneti Wand. I have ele PRM build with that gun that can almost do SR 90. Only Iron Maiden and Fabius were tough and it was slower. With these changes it will do SR 90.
Even used dual gun for more %WD and lifesteal but energy regen was bad without off hand in boss rooms.
All right, name me Fire damage Fire Strike pistols that convert the skill’s Lightning and Chaos damage to Fire, I’ll wait
but hoooowwwww
but why, that hood is bis for PRM Mage Hunters, there is no other better or alternative option unfortunately.
It’s really not! Only significant if you have Ghoul (but then you would want Evoker’s cdr for Ghoul which you wouldn’t have with double pistol spec).
That all can be changed.
Can you record a Ravager kill video with your spec then?
You say this but then you say this
Off-hand, besides adding energy regen, adds -rr% proc (both Invoker set and Tome of Names) which is of great importance on a single RR Arcanist. Maybe with that -rr% you would actually defeat Iron Maiden.
And don’t forget chunky %cdr that speeds up Mirror/Null/Ghoul (even Seal recasts).
Did you see my Ravager kill with it? If I record SR 90 run with it will you change your mind?
i dont’ see how that’s remotely relevant? “to the concept of the weapon having fire strike support” - sure conversion is a part of an item/items having skill support, but it doesn’t have to be the only or universal one.
Or; i don’t care if you get conversion on the weapon itself; try get it elswhere
(and we both know you can get 100% chaos conversion while using that pesky chaos gun )
I disagree. Not the same. One does fire/lightning with set. Other does ele without set. Not the same at all. And the one with set is better? Yeah, it should be… Apples and oranges…
i don’t even care about the dmg type split
the relevant part is with Sigillis you get double the leech, which to some (including me) is just better, because way more comfy, even outside sr 90/just on 75-76
*and i’m not gonna suggest the helmet gets sigillis stats baked in, it’s a fair tradeoff to exist i think(wand vs pistol), dmg vs comfort while still 1handing, or opening up niche dw potential (which some players really like because inquis)
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I guess you’re right, they’re exactly the same! 
