For long now Im trying to complete deathmarked set and make proper BD. RNG Gods truly love me and i have 5 chest peaces, about a dozen of weapon peaces, can craft hood, but Im missing, guess what…
Anyway got sick and tired of that and made BD around, please don’t laugh, Valdun set. I know no one uses that set for anything, not even for two handed range commando and that set its made for two handed range commando, but it worked.
I lack experience in playing dethamarked BD and would really appreciate your insight in few things. I will briefly elaborate concept of this build as introduction to questions Im about to ask.
Idea of the build was to stack as much pierce dmg possible, and Valduns set gives fair amount of flat pierce even if you aren’t using 2h ranged weapon. Also goal is to convert as much physical dmg to pierce, I know its easy when using derma slicer or claw combined with blades of nadaan but I`m using two reavers claws. Here Valduns helps a lot with its 30% increase in armor piercing in addition to blessed whetstones 50% and blades of nadaans 100% u get around 92% conversion to armor piercing. You can get even 100% by using blessed whetstone on both weapons but I needed other slot for Olerons blood because I got short on skill points to learn war cry. Shortage of skill points made me use reavers claws over derma weapons for +1 to soldier skills.
Build uses cadence as default attack, since cadence is pretty hard hitter now, DPS with only constant buffs on hits 59k. It has 50 to soldier skill mastery and 32 to Nightblade skill mastery so it doesent have execution proc, except cadence it uses only markovians advantage and belgothians shears because I feel that amarastas quck cut, whirling death and zolhans tehnique are actually a dps loss at least on lower levels and not worth investing. So that’s the first question, are AQC, BS and ZT worth investing?
Build works fine, everything around melts, trash and heroes alike it can facetank everything except Mad quen and Mog. Ring of steel from revers claw procs like crazy even without hitting, night chill triggers it. For luls I even made full Golus run clearing all trash without hitting.
Devotion lineup of this build is more or less classic for BM builds, Unknown soldier, Oleron, Blades of Nadaan, Assassin, assassins blade, Lion, Hawk, Empty throne, Owl, Harpy.
So it has reflect reduction from Owl, but my main problem is reflect dmg, its just eats whole hp in blink of an eye and Im not talking about dying cuz you blitz or SS on Fabius blade barrier Im talking about you hit some trash and suddenly your HP is next to zero. So thats my second question: is there any cure to it? Im even thinking of equipping mark of divinity because of that.
I uploaded picture with basic stats, you can see the gear, MI are mainly for busting OA and caping some resistances, nothing special fairly speaking. With different augment redistribution caos res is capable and aether can be upped.
Atribute points are 60/30 physique/cunning. Im not using dread skulls cuz bot running and atc speed are capped and +% to pierce is giving diminishing returns (already have +1200% to pierce).
I would appreciate your opinion and help, ty all in advance.
Stacking flat pierce and phys dmg, I can even go over 65K with some change to shoulders, gloves and belt, but I cant cap resistances than.
This build is not optimized, Im still testing skill points distribution so i cant give accurate grim calc. Basically difference between this build and other BM builds is that this one uses cadence as default attack and goes only 32 points in night blade mastery and ofc I dont use DM set.
I have one fleshwarped shoulder giving 39% aetherial res. arond 50 spirit and 50 cunning and some % bonus on physical attack and %9 armor +3 candence. This build could use it I assume. By the way, how does this char fare against nemesises? Dont you die with single strike of valdaran?
It probably could, but main problem for capping is poison res, sholderguars im wearing are giving abundance to poison resistance some physic some cunning, pierce res and OA. Cadence is capped on 26, badge of mastery gives +5 to cadence, got it wile trying to get one with +5 to savagery for my elementalist, like I said earlier RNG God loves me.
It fairs excelent, only problem is not valdaran but zantarin. Valdaran hits with lightning so low aether res doesent matter. Zantarin can, sometimes, to one shot you on approach, he has nasty wide spread attack, and if you take it all you die. But nice thing with this build is that you can take out Valduns rifle and kill him from range without taking any risk, you have close to 45K dmg with rifle. Only thing it definitely could not facetank and I tried was Mad Quin, maybe some more experienced BM player could do it but Im to slow and have terrible timing with heal, pneumatic burst. Didnt tried Mogdrogen, nor I will, killed him once with my which hunter and that’s enough from me.
One more thing, i was to lazy for doing Burbons clones quest so don’t know how would fair against them eider.
I can give u some insight to it, but like I said earlier Im still testing, with skills and gear so please be aware that grimcalc Im about to post is not completely optimized one.
Why would anyone laugh. You are being creative. Making Deathmarked set is easy, you just need to have the set and maybe check the Blademaster builds posted here that use this set.
I am very curious how this works out. It’s uncharted territory.
Your devotion points are fine as they are. It’s standard Blademaster. Thief constellation is very good for these guys.
Edit: You are in the testing phase now, enjoying the damage, procs from reavers and the devotions, i know the great feeling, but…If you take it to crucible with the current skill setup I don’t think you will make it. Thatis if you play crucible. I would really use Circle of Slaughter and Warcry (oleron’s blood is not enough with 2-3 nemeses poking at you unless you consistently use chocke points of course)for that. Also the lifesteal from Unknown Soldier might not be enough for extreme situations. I’d replace blessed whetstone with Haunted steel, or oleron;s blood with it if you go for warcry. Don’t be afraid of the dps loss, the return from this iinvestment is amazing.
Ty weary much. For now it works excellent, funny thing is that your main problem aren’t bosses or nemesis but reflecting mobs and heroes, it takes more time to put down reflecting hero than Fabius, you have to run circles around and watch when to hit him.
Edit: I don’t play crucible, but i was thinking to drop some more points into NB mastery and pick up circle of slaughter, fumble+high doge/deflect + more than 2k DA would make most of fights more than trivial.
Replacing whetstone with haunted steel is not so much of dps lost but its huge lost of piercing dmg to physical and with that you are losing -36% pierce dmg reduction from night chill on fair part of your dmg (going from 92% pierce conversion to 76%) . If it comes to that i would rather change Crolnys signet for life giver or some other with lifesteal.
If you wanna invest into NB mastery i recommand you to go 50/50 for spending 1 skill point into Blade Spirit, Blade of Wrath bounded to it, this combo is so strong that it basically near double your single target dps and greatly improve your aoe cleartime.
About Blessed whetstone, i might be wrong but i think its work only for one weapon not both.
Meanwhile you have 100% & 30% increase pierce from devo & valduns 2p, they are probably additive (need confirmation) so we got this formula:
332.3 = 75.9% phys to pierce conversion
332.8 = 92.4% phys to pierce conversion (with Blessed whetstone)
we can conclude that the Valdun 2p is good but not OP, bringing a 9.9% phys to pierce conversion, i would suggest a try with Peerleye of Beronath + Clairvoyant’s Hat granting you +2 all skill ~10% crit damage could be very versatile for your skill tree.
You can also remove your points from Markovian’s Advantage since the DA debuff dont stack with Belgothian’s Carnage.
I`m afraid that this build doest have enough skill points to go 50 to nightblade and maintain this amount of dps and survivability. And its irreversible so im not wiling to take any chances. It would be nice if someone with 50/50 in masteries BM builds could try this setup and give some insight.
Wheatstone works for both hands, when I have them on both weapons my cadence or weapon atack doesn’t have any physical dmg in it. I will attach picture with cadence tolltip breakdown with one Wheatstone, physical is ridiculously low and it have +729% modifier wile pierce is at exactly +1188%.
Changing to peearles eye is more than 8k dps lost and Clairvoyant’s Hat requires much more spirit than this build has.
Im not sure I understand how you mean that Markovians adv it doesn’t stack with Belgothian carnage? Mainly Im using it to proc Blades of wrath, cadence is bound to assassins mark, and belghotians shears to blind fury. Do you think I should drop markovians for something else?
i’m trying to understand how you have so much HP with so little in NB mastery in and considerable cunning investment. I have a similar BM with full masteries and 800 hp on chest with % life on shoulders and head and bearly get 11K life.
Yes Im aware of that, but basically I use Markovian just because i dont have better carrier for blades of wrath, only thing that mattered to me that it is 100% weapon dmg not less, cuz didnt want to lose on dps. I didnt took amarastas QC and whirling death because they are less than 100% weapon dmg, my reason was that they are dps loss.
As I asked in the first post I dont know is my reasoning right?
Im thinking of drooping Shadow strike to 1 point, on max lvl, and for this build its 18, it hits only 1k more than cadence. If i do that i could spare points to get circle of slaughter.
You are right about Blessed whetstone, it work for both weapons.
So it definitly consolided my first suggestion, u could drop Oleron’s Blood & Valdun set, go for 2x Blessed whetstone for a 99% conversion, with the +2 all skills from Peerless/clairvoyant you should have enough skills point for taking a 12/12 warcry (which is kinda superior to Oleron’s blood) and maybe afford a 50/50 NB mastery.
What pic are you looking? The first one i posted or the second one with 67,5 dps? On first one i have 11292, those shoulders give just 54 physique so its roughly 160 hp, or the other one with flat piercing dmg shoulders where i have 12889 hp those shoulders are vigorous of vitality with 797hp and +6%hp, but no resistances except of pierce that I vastly over caped even without it, if they would just have poison resistance they would be perfect.
Did you try taking some points(ı would say 10) from candence and put them on fighting form. This may increase your damage output because you have some flat pierce damage from dual blades, harpy and some flat physical damage from deadly momentum and Oleron. Thus u will be able make better use of fighting form’s % physical, % pierce and flat bleeding damage due to the % bleeding damage on deadly momentum.
I suggest removing 10 points from cadence because after lvl 16 it does not add that much damage.
Valdun set is core of this build is not here only for conversion it gives total 49-91 flat pierce dmg and abundance of +% to pierce. When i switch just amulet i lose 39-81 flat pierce dmg and that means 8k lower dps.
But I will try it just to see how it would work thx
Even if I would go to 50 nightblade mastery I still would`t have enough spirit for Clairvoyant hat, so that hat is out of question at least for me
