thats a toss. haha. Which was why i was considering archon since their pets can debuff pretty much everything minus chaos
Might be less tanky, but seems like it’d have more options to screw with endgame.
Yes, Archon has the most builds out of all these.
archon it is, ty again !
and forcewave 
Shaman has several ways to go offensive
- Savagery auto attack replacer
- Primal strike spammer both melee and ranged
- Lightning caster with storm totem and wind devils
- Vitality caster with totems and swarm for debuff
- pets: briar is so busted and there are ways to get almost permanent primal spirit
I played melee and ranged exclusively for like 2k hrs plus and only now started to play casters…so much fun I’m having and I barely scratched the surface lol
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Guys, an intuitive question (not tested or proven in-game):
My intuition tells me that Physical 2H Warder (don’t know if 2H melee or 2H ranged is better) should be a great build. Some skills (passives) are mandatory:
Far Cry + Break Morale
Fighting Spirit
Field Command + Squad Tactics
Military Conditioning
Decorated Soldier
Scars of Battle
Brute Force
Mogdrogen’s Pact + Heart of the Wild + Oak Skin
And some skills you can choose from:
Cadence / Savagery
Oleron’s Rage / Primal Bond
Upheaval (only!) / Zolhan’s Technique + Markovian’s Advantage + Feral Hunger
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Oh, sorry, TqFan, I will do it with the post as well.
yes it is and I do not think anyone had claimed otherwise
I remember playing Avenger Warder once against Crate a long time ago and it was basically unkillable against it.
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Who was unkillable? The Crate, or the Avenger Warder? 
Actually the damage of that build wasn’t that great I think. But yes it was a super tank 
But I think Avenger has been nerfed a bit since then so who knows now. And it might have been before Sunder.
If only Internal Trauma builds were unkillable by their own Internal Trauma 
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