So....Valdaran.

F*** that guy.

83% resists, 10k HP, 2200 DEF ability, then took a lightning pot over that.

Playing Pyromancer (dual wield exterminus).

From nearly off-screen, I got in 4 shots, and as I attempted to run away to kite him at max range, he lightning bolt stunned me, teleported to me, then proceeded to give me a lightning-ball enema for, get this: 20,180 dmg!!!

Went against him about a dozen times, thought maybe it was a fluke, and he just lucky crit me.

NOPE.

He did this, every single time.

What.

The.

Actual.

FU**!!!

I know these guys are supposed to be hard, but bullsht cheesy port-in-1-shot-nothing-you-can-do-GG-newb mechanics isn’t hard, it’s deliberately IMPOSSIBLE unless you have a specific invul build or near-invul build with mega HP (21k+), full stun resists, and 2-3 circuit breakers.

i never got one shotted by him and i’ve killed him wth a variety of builds. Even my 2H Rifle Pyromancer can kill him rather easily. I actually never got killed by him with all my current characters.

I’m not bragging (may sound like i am but i’m not) and i’m an okay player at best. I could have blamed that one shot on whatever weapon he was using (Fabius and Notched Bone of a Thousand Deaths) but since Valdaran doesn’t wield weapons, i find it really odd.

I don’t know what to tell you, then. That was my first ever time encountering him, and, imo, he’s utterly impossible.

I try to keep him at max range. I kite. I have the dmg (40,128dps), the def ability if he hits me with physical (2229, and I don’t know if he DOES use physical atks, since I lasted literally 6 seconds upon engaging him each and every time), and I have 83% ele resists (is there a soft cap or something? Can’t go over this for some reason).

The guy simply plows through me as if I were made of paper mache and Zippo lighter fluid, and he’s a blowtorch (or in this case, an arc welder).

He can cut your resist to half with his debuff, meaning that your resist will drop to 41/42%, plus when he ports near you, he will unleash two shotgun attacks that can easily kill you, if you’re debuffed.

He is indeed very annoying to kill, and I have to kite him a bit to avoid death.

I guess we each have a different nemesis that wipes the floor with us. I find Valdaran the easiest nemesis but absolutely cannot kill the undead one because he chain freezes me every single time.

Use this https://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items/3121-Hoarfrost-Ointment

On topic I dont have problems with Valdaran on mine dual wielding pyro, but I do with Fabius. I even tried with upping my hp regeneration to 1.4k but still i have to kite a lot.

Are you using Flashbang with Searing Light? Fumble works on Nemesis and can cause them to miss attacks. Dunno if confuse works, but with Valdaran i find him walking around aimlessly sometimes when i hit it with the Flashbang. Don’t know if it’s actually affecting him (can anybody confirms this?).

I honestly find Benn’Jhar to be the most annoying, at least for melee. Between the hard hitting physical attacks, stunning, littering the field with chaos mines and getting faster and more durable when he’s below 30% health, i find it really annoying.

never ever kite Valdaran at max range, he can combo like that: lightning stun > teleport > shotgun > death. IMO he’s caster and quite slow so stay close enough but not facetank, he’ll never use lightning stun or teleport or even shotgun, my strategy just run around his chest or a tree even something can block his spell and kite him

Doesn’t work, he still freezes you even through a hoarfrost ointment.

I think this explains why I had an easier time with Valdaran. I get up in his grill and stay there as much as possible.

Heh, I’m a warlock and Benn is super easy for me. I let me pets do the heavy lifting and when he sends out his giant wave of hurt I Mirror before it hits me.

Valdaran was always an ass when I tried to fight him with my AAR build, he pretty much always would just go teleport > shotgun > fuck you as soon as I engaged. Not worth my time, to be honest.

:smiley: first time for Valdaran always like that: switch or stun > 360 lightning > teleport > shotgun > 3 lightning balls > :eek: let’s calculate the distance: switch or stun even teleport about 5 meters > shotgun or freeze about 1~2 meters > safe zone 3-4 meters. So with 3-4 meters he can’t combo stun > teleport > shotgun, just 3 lightning balls > 360 lightning > that why i always kitting and run around his chest > profit

Lifestealer oil… Solves pretty much every problem as far as nemeses are concerned. Most characters can kill them in under thirty seconds provided they stand and fight.

I meant for melee. Pets and ranged builds of any kind destroy Moosilauke and Benn’jhar because of how slow they are (even if Benn is faster than the Obsidian Ravagers). In melee you have to take the full brunt of his assault and he can deal serious damage.

Yes but it don’t last more than a blink.

It is really dependant on the build honestly.

I have a cold/frostburn melee spellbreaker that can kill Valdaran in Ultimate easily, while my aether/fire spellbreaker has trouble killing him in Elite. Both are level 85 with proper gear.

Whenever I see Valdaran I just quit the game and start a new one. Because why even bother?

Valdaran was the first ultimate nemesis I encountered on my first character, a lightning conjurer. It was extremely unpleasant.
I eventually downed him by kiting him around a tree for 20 minutes.
Good times.
Never again.

Might be because you don’t have enough cold/freeze resist already, suggest stacking cold and freeze resists as none of my builds with high cold/freeze resist ever get locked by him for more than a fraction of a second.

:smiley:
You know. My gunslinger pyromancer was my first ever character and valdaran was my first ever Nemesis. So I can feel your outrage:confused:

I know it sounds counter intuitive to do this with a ranged character but, do NOT fight him at range/off screen. He thrives on that. His 1-shot lightning is only cast at range. Stand near him. Only step away from him for a moment when you think he will hast his lightning balls up close, then return next to him. Also Attack damage converted to health helps if you don’t already have it.

Also on resistance. Valdaran debuffs absolute value. It doesn’t matter if you overcap it with stormshroud really. Just don’t let him stay far from you because that lightining with the debuff on will destroy even the tankiest characters. He is much easier up close.

Blast shield at 10/10 or 12/12 with + skills is also your friend for ever and ever and ever. Searing light from flashbang at 6 or 7 with + skills also does not hurt at all as it affects Nemeses too.

Also a small tip on weapons: don’t use dual Exterminus. This was a common mistake made by gunslinger pyromancers back in spring when game was still newly released. The fire/chaos debuff does NOT stack and Brimstone can be maxed with Shadowflame mantle/Blood Sigil of Ch’ton. -% debuff stacks with it’self only if it is from different sources. In this case the source is the proc which is the same for each gun. The proc +Solael devotion do work together etc. Use Exterminus +Deviltongue. They are wonderful toghether for a Gunslinger pyro. They complete each other. One debuffs, the other gives a freat shotgun proc that geives even more damage +Demo skills and more overall fire damage.

How to kill Valdaran deathless, no matter the build and gear, in three easy steps:

  1. Find Valdaran.
  2. Drag him to an obstacle - a tree or column.
  3. Pick the loot.