Spam DEE and DEE set ->discussion on tweaks to the set viable for this and various DEE ideas

Make spam DEE good. Nuke DEE will ALWAYS choose OK secondary because of cdr on Path of the Three. And tbh Rotgheist is better or just as good/bad as Dreeg set for that. I’m fine with Rotgheist being the choice for nuke DEE, but Dreeg set needs way more stuff to make you wanna go for spam DEE instead, like 100%vit to acid conversion to benefit from the flat vit, remove all poison mods to DEE and give it more flat acid instead. The only thing that witchunter has over sentinel is casting speed, so you need to try to make spam DEE good as making nuke DEE be good on anything except sentinel seems like am impossible task imo.

Edit 1: DEE skill line might need some Blade Arc treatment, reduce strengh of mod while buffing base flat values. This is how crate succeeded at making Spam BA viable while not destroying nuke version.

Edit 2: About ascension problem, why not give a caster offhand huge oa/cc res modifier to pneumatic burst? This makes sure that it can’t be abused by venomblade builds and caster dervish really has no main ability for acid. An acid caster offhand with boni to pneumatic burst is the best way I can think of how to buff caster witchhunter as it also doesn’t occupy a Dreeg set slot.

Edit 3:

You are right about that, elemental in general is in a way healthier spot than acid/poison, also due to Inquisitor nerfs and Demo buffs.

Why do you need CDR on a DoT skill? Even without CDR, your increase in duration time already exceeds DEE’s base CD.

TBH, if I could, I would go WH. You can get more %acid/poison damage with AoTG + possession than you can with PoT3.

Agreed. But that’s such a massive change…

Not true, double heal is pretty huge IMO. Anatomy of murder is also vital for acid builds because aleksander has crazy acid res.

Again, imo, the biggest reason why the sentinel will outperform the WH is simply because permascension is the most straightforward fix to the common problems faced by acid builds.

Maybe…I wouldn’t know. TBH, I’m not so much concerned about spam DEE as I am with the whole acid kerfuffle.

Because there are plenty of indirect ways of improving spam DEE’s situation. (E.g. better acid rings) which will also improve the health of acid builds as a whole.

I like this idea. I also think you can buff non-OK acid builds by improving belts/relics, but that works too.

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Ulzuin’s set got an even more massive change, so there could be hope :smile:

I agree that DoT is the main part, but there is decent amount of flat aswell, which benefits nicely from the cdr.

True, but as you stated ascension gives massive oa/CC res/absorb and non dualwhield nightblade doesn’t even have phys res, which is why I think they need a massive mod on an offhand to make up for not dualwhielding. At least they got what I forgot to mention but you did not:

This would also be nice.

Honestly, what would be perfect for the DEE set is if they could hybridize these 2 things: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2j1810N

EDIT: And for the love of all that is good and holy, get that +1 to all OK out of that weapon. Replace it with +2 to all necro or something.

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Should put this into the 1hander/offhand feedback thread.

I think @adoomgod may be aware of this. If not I’ll add it in.