Strongest 2H Rifle Build

Topic.
I want to build a 2h range, is Commando my only option?
What’s the best build you know for a rifle build? I thought Valdun with soldier build is a beast but im not so sure anymore :confused:

go for it i have a valduns build with cadence insane damage

and here a link for my Grimcalc

http://grimcalc.com/build/1006-B0LDW3

Thank you!

What’s the point having Demo btw? I mean it doesnt seem like Valdun build going for anything special on demo tree

I dont see any reason that it’d be stronger than a witchblade version.

I recommend a Harbinger pyromancer if you have the gear for it. Crazy high chaos dmg and resist pierce in one.

Valdun’s is mostly crap, imo. Some damage if the 3rd hit or rifle proc crits. Which is like 10-15% of the time.

Rifle gives +1 to all demo skills.

If you use Valdun it is much stronger than WB.

Not if you put some effort to it.
Edit: Rifle proc is 25 % and you get one more 25% proc from full set, and fragmented round.
Edit 2: Sry not rifle, proc is from amulet, rifle gives fragmented round.

is there a guide you can recommend me ?

Sure, there is a Theorycrafting Guide for this build with Valdun set:

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45169

You can find my idea at page 5 :slight_smile:

I clear BoC with this build too, only Fabius is unbeatable for me, any ideas? :smiley:

Valdun > Jov Harbringer build ?

In terms of survivability and AOE no, in terms of single target dmg and paper dps yes.
Wait to see my 2H ranged 0 phys/spirit BM it uses some pieces of Valdun and its better than Valdun/cadence commando.

If’ ill ever make a Valdun build, I still need the Jacket, I’m also making him BM. Allt that pierce damage is wasted otherwise I think.

But the Commando have better CC skills and debuffs like flashbang, canisterbomb and blackwater cocktail.

The Blademaster have maybe the bladetrap for a ranged build or maybe Warcry with Terrify, i dont know^^

Yes commando have better cc and higher paper dps.
But BM has Nights chill, pierce resistance shred so it hits much harder.

But Valdunset is a commando based set, so much skills for that, flashbang+modifier and the rifle have +1 to demo skills :rolleyes:

+1 demmos is nice, but ~-40% pierce debuff + Cadence is nicer in actual gameplay. I’ve oftem makdae the mistake of taking an items + skills in the literal sense towards class choice. But it’s there as an option. You can make it a commando who needs all the + skills he can get, Or blademaster who will do more damage even without all that help.

BM do more damage maybe, but where is the survivability? :smiley:

The pretty great pants are maybe an option. We need an idea for that :slight_smile:

Use silverbolt instead of Valdun rifle.

If I tell you that with 0 phys/spirit 2H ranged BM with 3 pc of Valdun and silverbolt I can in 90% of times facetank Fabius is that enough survivability for you :slight_smile:

What JOV said, It’s the mosters who are gonna need survivability against you:p. That’s the way blademasters work, Kill them before they keill you.

BTW circle of SLaughter fumble effect that works on bosses too is stronger than searing light with less points.

EDIT: just curious JOV have you tried Valdun’s rifle ability with Falcon Swoop on it? And Blades of wrath on blade spirit. Sounds pretty brutal, it’s kinda what i wanted to try out.