When I say strongest I mean what class combo can ouput the highest amount of bleed damage centered around transmutted Blade arc and other bleed abilities? Warder seems like it could be with DS for RR, savagery to use when I have CDs, and primal bond for obvious reasons. But Blademaster has RoS which I know can stack a lot of bleed damage as well. Witchblade seems lacking. Bloody pox would be a good Rend proccer, but doesn’t seem to offer much more. I’d appreciate any feedback, but warder seems to be the winner so far.
Edit: also, would cadence using fighting form be another good source of bleed, if I were to not taking savagery?
2h guillotine warder, DW trickster, s/b witchblade, gutripper warder all have their pros and cons. If you just want the highest dot ticks, then 2h guillotine warder.
My s/b Witchblade is the most reliable of my bleed farmers though
As in it’s the most consistent 150-170 farmer. In main campaign trickster or warder is a better choice due to movement skills https://www.grimtools.com/calc/0V0DmJrV
DW bleed tricksters are probably the fastest 150-170 farmers, but i find them less reliable than the witchblade since they are so fragile and prone to getting bursted from 100 to 0 now and then
He means most consistent in clearing gladiator crucible without dying and with good cleartimes. DPS is not everything, character that has the best balance between offense and defense is always the best character, also gladiator crucible is the best test of a character strength and reliability, even though I personally don’t like crucible.
Consider crucible a benchmark, if your char can clear gladiator in let’s say 10 min or less that is definitely a good build and will clear everything in campaign with little to no effort (except ult ravager and mogdrogen but those are stupid and we usually don’t even consider them much).
Grim Dawn is a game of balance, everybody can build a glass cannon but no glass cannon is ever considered a good build.
It is always good to have the highest dmg output while having the highest reliability at the same time. DoT builds can be very strong and effective because you can usually go s&b without loosing a lot of damage if built properly. That’s why I would go s&b with a DoT build 9/10 times. With 2h I would probably rather go with a huge dps, lifesteal, paired with good phys resistance.
I appreciate the feedback. I have one more question, i usually play ranged builds and didn’t even consider a ranged bleed build. Would cadence or savagery do a better job for ranged bleed? Cadence seems like more aoe.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/dVbJGxzV - My current bleed WB without MI’s. Substitute with GDstashed Pit Master’s Axe of GDstashing for maximum results. When playing Witchblade in cruci, never ever tank 169 and watch your health at 163. Idk why but shielded soldiers always have some problems on those waves.
@Mercy - I can’t believe Tricksters are faster than Witchblade/Warder. How?
Damn, and it looks unoptimized too, considering the Blade Spirit buffs. Still could do better but yeah that’s squishy as hell. For reference, what’s your fastest WB run?
I’d still go bleed for warder only because Witchblade/DK Leviathan still looks better for physical while there’s nothing that can contest warder for 2h bleed.
Are you guys serious, Tricksters are so much ahead of anyone else in the bleed department. Here is a video of 6:10 4 blessings 1 banner run, made by one of the Russian builders (with just a little help from me).
his latest iteration is more stable and consistent. It does depend on two green items a lot tho. As I see it, if you slap Mark of Divinity on it, you might loose like ~30-45 seconds of clear times but still do consistent sub 7 minute runs with 3 blessings 1 banner.
Also, somehow Bleeding Trickster is hella fun to play.
I’m gonna need to respecc my bleed trickster to this and try it. Previous one was just too fragile after the DA era and i never bothered with it after some tries in making it work. Cause not gonna lie, that looks pretty sick and i’ve been wanting to get my trickster out of retirement again
Yeah I just looked at the builder and noticed it’s the same guy but with updated build. I still think maxed spirit would do wonders here instead of maxing whirling death, but the guy probably tested that already.