Hey guys, I would like to hear your opinions on Cadence skill and it’s performance on your playthrough through all difficulties and when compared to similar skills like Fire Strike, Savagery, etc…
I am highly displeased that they took away the extra crit damage. I also don’t like how devotion procs only occur on the Cadence hit and not the other two. It doesn’t work terribly well with WPS and its AOE is highly mediocre. Its only strong advantage is its relatively low energy cost per hit when fully maxed. Suffice to say I don’t like it at all in its current state.
When I’m doing a soldier pure, I’ll use it. But I don’t love it generally speaking, and will try to use another default attack if I have a class with one.
I think I would prefer it if the damage scaled, one, two, three, rather than only the 3rd hit getting bonuses (ie the second strike has a small bonus and the third gets the most). Because frankly sometimes you don’t even get to a third strike.
Cadence sucks pretty bad. More so when the third hit misses, which is the only thing points in this skill modify.
Cadence has gone through so many reversion. Personally i think build 31 got it just right, now its on a bad nerf phase. Almost everything including mistborn talisman is better I hope its fixed before the final version of standalone non DRM version gets published.
I’m using it on my warder in elite because it provided bleed damage with relatively few points. It’s not amazing or anything but it does what I need it to do.
You mean B30? The nerf to Cadence was in B31.
At its current state its quite pitiful as a main skill, losing a huge chunk of crit damage with no other adjustments just felt really silly. It gets worse since pure physical weapons (maces) got nerfed in attack speed as well, so it was essentially two layers of nerf in 1 patch.
Works on any hit for me, doesn’t matter if it is the one Cadence is triggered on, or not. Tested with Trample (Bull constellation). Go get some newly added training dummies a beating, and check it out for yourself
As for the topic theme, I actually specifically played only soldier (well, a few summoners to brought to low level, too) as a means to save build exploration excitement for release, so I can’t really honestly compare Cadence to other means. I liked it more than troll rage, haven’t once in 300+ hours found that shard recipe everyone is talking about. I liked Cadence pretty good, was my main constant single-target dps source. I wasn’t offensively orienting my build, so killing speed was a tad slow, so I’m a poor judge there too. Cadence was usually 16/16 - 1/12 - 12/12 in my builds. As I said, I found it working out okay.
Can anyone confirm that, as well as the piece on info below?..
My friend also told me that Cadence now works with WPS procs and even “sometimes” empowers them.
I tried it out in B30 with my Warder and I didn’t like it then and now I will just find and use something else. It just feels weak and I feel like the points you need to invest into it can be better used elsewhere.
My crits are much lower now and that makes healing from attack damage converted to health also lower. Even when I changed devotions and got my %crit back to what it was around.
Uh, what? Crit damage @ devotions was also nerfed, as well as I don’t think it was even close to the raw +%crit damage from Cadence&Fighting Spirit combined, which was over +100% IIRC.
I’m actually diong my first ever build with Cadence as my main melee attack and while i have no idea how it was before i do think it works great, the Devotion skilli got linked to it(Eye of the Guardian) also procs like crazy and the damage is great as well(mind u i’m lvl 46 atm in veteran with 5 points in it) but this might also come from the wand i got that has very high attack speed
OK, I can confirm that Maul works with all strikes from Cadence. I guess I was misinformed about that. However I have tested WPS with Cadence and I do not believe they proc on the 3rd strike.
Based on this I will upgrade Cadence from poor to mediocre.
Cadence is still trash for melee, almost everything except probably Forcewave beats it. It got better for ranged but there’s no one who’s really going to pick Cadence over Fire Strike for ranged.
I use cadence in mele shield commando and i like it. It’s not amazing in terms of dps but very fun to play 10k-30k hits is decent for ultimate IMHO.
Used it on my Blademaster until I hit level 25 and got the last things I needed for Mistborn Talisman. I now use Troll Rage instead and put my Cadence points into other stuff which I feel is a lot better for my build and I’m doing a lot more damage.
Nothing has changed in the last months in that regard. The first and second attack are able to proc WPS, the third hit doesn’t. WPS get empowered by Deadly Momentum.
I swapped Falcons to mistborn talisman from cadence and I feel it’s proccing a lot less… Haven’t really tested it but it would often proc 2 or 3 times in a row when I had it on cadence. Now sometimes I forget I have them or don’t see them for a few packs.
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Cadence have Fighting Form which is two more attack checks for devotions.