Cause i’m a poet and meme fan…was a continuing to that…
Well this topic went places :rolleyes: Regardless, the general consensus is that Thunderous Strike seems fine as it is now after the recent buff it received and the changes to Primal Strike altogether.
You do not know de way.
It can still use something to do more single target damage. Or maybe stun just the main target u click on if u use thunderous strike.
Spit on him ma brodes !
Uganda be kiddin me
This is the last mention of your build’s sheet DPS that I can find, it probably has changed since then but not radically so, so I’m going to ask:
Do you really think Primal Strike needs more when you are reaching 140k sheet DPS (if not 100k+) ontop of the great AoE it has?
YES - cause when u hit single targets, bosses etc, its like u are cursed with -50% total dmg.
The skill, with thunderous strike is a very powerfull skill for hoards, but when hoards are gone, and u remain with single target it’s like it’s another skill…
Even with normal monsters, u kill faster more enemies than 1 enemy of the same type…it’s kinda…not good…not normal, not logical and not fair…
And dont forget - it cant trigger wps.
I am still satisfied with it, the build overall, cause i want to play thunderous strike, and i actually got to something decent…but still far from good. And mainly cause…single target. Also i dont have any source of slow/stun/sleep and armor and da are low.
Do you know de way?
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Gonna need you to elaborate on this because this makes no sense.
And dont forget - it cant trigger wps.
Don’t forget that points in WPS = points you could spend elsewhere. Savagery requires more investment to beat Primal Strike as bystander explains below:
I think at the end of the day, we’re gonna have to agree to disagree 
Primal Strike is fine, numerous people in this topic have tried it after the recent buffs and think it is fine.
If you are having trouble with it or it is not killing as fast as you’d like, try something else, every main offensive skill is (or should be) balanced for the game without being underpowered/overpowered but still viable. This does mean some skills will be stronger than others but that is to be expected - you cannot make everything perfectly equal in every area.
Agreed !
if it’s 25% out of for times where you got really really lucky with nemesis spawns…maybe…but still not. 2400 DA melee, solo, no double mirror with Hourgalss. Sorry man, not buying.
Lol - u want me to send u save file so u can test it ?
I chase them around the map and kill one by one at 159 and 160, and most before that i do the same.
And the luck i get is that kuba gets stuck walking in front of a wall or something when u chase him around map.
And again, i didnt came with this build saying is best, if u look at 1st link is far from this, and far from good, this now is decent good. I actually came to ask for help and hints which i used…but some of u people came after 5 mins with changes after i posted…saying that is better…or mine is worse…like there was time to play it and actually test.
I am playing it right now…and wtf would i lie…u can test it for urself.
No thank you. I have plenty of melee tons and know exactly what to expect with those stats after mirror goes down and you are facing reaper/kuba.
You also don’t need to prove anything. It’s just my opinion. Not about lies.
U said “sor man i dont buy it” like u dont believe what im saying, leading me to believe u didnt actually play it, cause probably u didnt have the pants or medal or both, thats why i said to send u save, cause it would mean u would play with exactly what i played…only thing reamining is game style, u have to know how to run 
But overall, im not saying u are not right, i would love +500DA or +500armor or even both if i could add them without loosing a lot of dps…but im still looking in data base for items maybe something comes up, maybe some blues. who knows…
And again, i kill them every time chasing them, cuba i get him stuck, while i kill others, and i chase reaper, i can facetank him 2-3-4 sec, after that i use mirror, after that i chase him, after i repeat and kill him.
It’s not easy, didnt say it was, just said i did it, and i dont think crucible can be easy unless u are an op pet build…
Armor, unless really really high is not very effective vs reaper/kuba.
It’s phys dmg res. You have 10%. You need 30-40% min. They take ur phys res way under 0% with rr which is very dangerous.
2 things i’d do for now:
- use potent Ravager eye augemet. It’s amazing
- chose between ultos and spear(you are being greedy with dmg devos:) )to get solemn watcher for DA and time dilation for 2x mirror
I recommend Drizzto Devo https://www.grimtools.com/calc/dVbxk4kN gear is pre aom but devos are top notch
I just killed lokkar now, full-facetank him all the time until he died, never run from him, used 1 potion of health and 1 mirror, in 2 players, the other one stood aside, and i used 1 lifestealer oil, no cluster.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/JVlkW3R2 - just changed some skills, maxed out arcane will and elemental exchange.
Was 1st time getting there with this druid
%DA huh. Gotta catch them all 
please show in build calc
That’s good, but in 2 players game bosses divert their attention from you, because there is another player present. If you tackle him in solo game, it’s a different story.