[] Lightning 2h Ranged Vindicator, Gladiator in ~ 7 minutes

no green maffia

NGM :rofl:


Z created enough greens to fight against the mafia :grava_yes:

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Our community was called differently
But the mafia for the first time :innocent:

Very funny name
Because we even have our own build inspector
You all know him well - @mad_lee

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Cool build
What’s “No Green Mafia” and where’s that image in the OP from (too lazy to reverse search)

The dudes who only posts builds with “no greens” and says that green items should not be allowed / is bad game/build design.

No green Mafia, cause lot of builders don’t like green MI in the builds.

Image, I wrote in google 2h lightning gun in order to find some awkward pic, so somewhere got this, Benjamin Franklin with lightning gun.

half the fun about making builds and guides here is to find and make funny pictures

Yes, I usually don’t do it, but why not?

Plus its thematically appropriate. Thunderous strike does look cool on top of that.

How do i level this build? Like what i should go for first/maxing out skill wise?

Welcome to forum
Just seek Nery beginner guide you can find it [] Beginners/Budget Vindicator,lightning Caster/2h Ranged versions


Hey my dude kind of hyped to play this but. With Grim Tools being down (temporarily), is there any way you could grab a screenshot of the skills/devotion? I would do some extra nasty stuff.

Devotions in my beginners build are slightly different than end game. But I remember going Dying God and Ultos for T3 constellations. Also Ghoul, Kraken and Revenant and for RR Widow.

For Skill distribution, put as many as possible points in Primal Strike line. One point in Savagery, max Tenacity and Might of boar, few points in Storm touched. Censure as exclusive skill for RR, max Seal, passive skills are for softcap and put as many points as possible in Words of renewal.Hope it helps.

When GD is back, all be normal. I don’t have screenshots of the build and don’t have access to my PC currently.

thanks my dude, I really appreciate it!

So here is the setup that I think might be faster. Main problem is physical to lightning conversion versus racial damage when you choose affixes, I think it will all come down to testing (Primal has a big Physical component).

Thanks! When was making this build was wondering about affixes of the gun. In Chton old topic was discussed about importance of the conversion. Also flat damage is important. Hopefully in next patch will have Crucible level slightly decreased, so will try more glassy canons, including this build. Until that time is up to other people to decide how good is TS Vindicator performance.

Hey Nery, having a good time with the build. About to finish all of the campaign content on ultimate without too many issues, and then I’ll start farming for more set pieces, blueprints, etc. I was wondering if you could give me some feedback on my character https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2do4d0N


  • If you can cap the resistances, you can take Mark of Farseer medal, which is faction bought.

  • Also you need some stun resistance, 0 is really dangerous. Maybe you can craft Stoneplate boots.

  • Also I suggest Fettan mask, until you have Ultos. It gives +1 to all skills and slow resistance on top, it’s better than your current helm.


  • Your PS is over the limit, remove 4 points at spirit guide.

  • Make Ranged Expertise at 10/10, also more points in Raging Tempest.

Devotions are fine, although not sure how much DG is worth now. Maybe fit Hydra?

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Thank you for the suggestions. Does PS stop scaling with skill levels at a certain point?
I’ve seen some people say that DG drains too much hp/sec however I’m sustaining it fine at the moment. Did they nerf the entire constellation or something since you made this guide?

If your skill have 16 ranks, you can put up to 10 more skill points. So PS scales up until 26/16, is called hardcap. Beyond that it does nothing. PS skill and every skill you use as main attack benefits from having more ranks in it. Support skills usually have sweet spots where you can leave them, usually past certain ranks skills scale poorly.

DG proc was recently nerfed, at same time health cost haven’t been touched. I mean it still is good devotion but on some builds Korvaak is better. For melee Conjurer for example I tried it an liked it this way. Also Hydra is good for ranged builds. Here, I am not so sure, since build can’t count on converting flat pierce/other elements to lightning.

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Ahh okay, thanks for the info on that, didnt quite understand before.

Hydra does seem like a good choice. Maybe they’ve changed it because it appears there’s no flat pierce on it anymore. Just flat elemental and flat physical.

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