Phys is the weakest non-retal dmg type and S&B is the weakest non-retal build archetype. So this state of things is metaphorically “retaliated” into a monster among retaliation builds.
@Dmt looks like something went wrong during typing values for balance
@arcane_undo I was trying Sentinel, it can’t survive with fevered rage. Even my 35 seconds Ravager with clasical physical items (much more tankier) had like 10% consistency vs him, not even mention how bad it could be in crucible or sr. But try it, maybe you will do it better than me so I am looking forward for results!
@banana_peel Thanks! I think except set, first Fevered Rage should be changed for retaliation, like some penalty. Without it build is not as strong.
3 parts set were existing but this patch it’s just more worth to use full set and conversion for physical builds. I think I’ve even wrote in some of your build’s topic that 4 parts +targo/rare belt seems be strange strong after this patch.
Absolution should stay at it is imo, problem is in buffed set and in some way from Witchblade tankyness so it can survive with fevered rage and bosses just kill themselves.
I agree retaliations should stay tanky, it’s their identification - slow turtle build who doesn’t care about anything.
Added Crate boss fight, took around 1 min with fevered rage too, wasn’t really speedrunning, just 1 attempt because was curious if it can die too. It can easy.
Ah cccsennn, I saw his channel in like 1.1.4 but can’t find it now in your videos site, I remember there were a lot of great builds with leveling guides included. I think guys here were writing somewhere he was one of the best builders here in old times with crazy superbosses times. Can you send me his channel in PM if he doesn’t want to make it public?
Really good post, much respect for everyone involved! Love you guys’ effort, honesty, transparency and sacrifice finally showing the true power of retaliation in all its glory.
Now it can finally get nerfed properly
Try some fevered rage on HC vs Grava’thul, I will give you a cookie if you dodge his nullify without animation
@Boromonokli It’s all about conversion, going from some halfass belt with 50% into 60% improved ravager time from 39 seconds into 25. And grinding in gd stash for one hour for almost perfect rolls).
Buff all builds to be like this and this build is no longer broken.
I predict Counter Strike mods on the set and maybe the skill itself being nerfed, mainly because it seems to be the thing that is allowing Warlord/Witchblade to deal so much damage. Combined with the fact that Sentinel is nowhere as consistent, even though it has double physical RR, just makes it seem Counter Strike has a lot of the blame here since Sentinel doesn’t have that skill, for obvious reasons.
Sentinel is less consistent because of survivality mostly, witchblade is way tankier. Set itself is problem and fevered rage, some penalty for retaliation vs fevered enemies should be made imo.
I am looking forward to see chinese version, our kill times are similar so maybe combine ideas will result in even faster times
I use shield bash to apply 15% reduced target resistances from Essence of cthon, I guess at least 100% weapon damage to apply full value is necessary to it - or I am wrong and I’ve just wasted one skill slot. However Mark of myrmidon seems interesting idea with its more flat retal (for 8 seconds but maybe will do the difference in short boss fight), gonna try it later.
That is correct. Brutal Shield Slam has a cooldown though and because Essence of Chthon has a chance to apply that resistance reduction, you can get unlucky and take several attempts to apply it. And there’s a three seconds delay between each attempt.