[1.1.7.1] [Pyromancer] Ruinous Apostle

Nice guide, I always like beginners builds! :slightly_smiling_face:

I wrote that Chaos is lacking any beginners guides and here it is. Pyromancer is natural fit for chaos damage.

Getting Chronomancer prefix for this build can really make it lots of fun.

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Hello. First of all , thank you for a chaos based beginner guide. Just some questions :

Where do you get gloves from? I see some beginner builds are using this gloves, do they drop from a specific monster or is it RNG?

Also , any end-game builds to follow to tackle true end game content like Lokkar atlest? Thanks for taking your time to read my questions.

I didn’t mention either but they can show up in random gear vendors, but more often that they just have yellow affixes, hence why I prefer crafting for them.

Redeemer Gauntlets are the highest level Heavy Armour base you can find so try not to get any Medium or Light versions instead. We want as much armour as we can get.

Sigil/BWC Chaos caster by mad_lee. Plays pretty much just like this build does that I can see except with more focus on BWC in place of Doom Bolt.

Doom Bolt spam caster by afanasenkov26. More focused on Doom Bolts as a main damage source.

Chaos Stun Jacks + Sigils. It has been buffed damage-wise since I posted it so sheet DPS is higher than it appears.

The devotions for all of these will be different to the one used while levelling but a couple of core procs like Eldritch Fire and Hungering Void will be in there.

I may end up posting the Pyro I wanted to swap into while levelling this one as well as it is a very unique concept that hasn’t been posted yet and I have all the gear ready, but It won’t be for awhile. Writing the Sigil Pyro up really took it out of me :sweat:.

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Very nice beginner Pyromancer you’ve got here. :+1: :+1:

Unique concepts are always welcome - good luck and I’m looking forward to see your other build!

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Thank you for your in-depth reply!

Chaos AAR has crap budget itemization while chaos FoI has a pretty decent itemization but it’s a pretty ugly build compared to fire FoI. That leaves us chaos sigil and chaos doombolt. They more or less complement each other, but good luck building around both. This build focuses on Sigil while Doombolt is an afterthought, could had been the other way around.

Great guide. I am using it as a template to level my chaos occultist.

Did you try Abaddoth’s Sermons (https://www.grimtools.com/db/items/14209) as an off-hand alternative to that shield? You lose the great sigil mods from the shield and +2 to both sigil skills, but you gain full vitality to chaos conversion for both doom bolt and sigil, cdr from an off-hand (which affects all your spells), +2 to possession, and +% chaos damage. Your doom bolt dps should increase considerably with the off-hand.

I wrote and posted the guide the update before Abaddoth’s Sermon and the other new areas of the game were released so I haven’t tried it. It’s not a bad choice for the full conversion as you say but for a Sigils specialist, losing the -0.6s and +5s duration means you can only squeeze out 2 Sigils as opposed to 4-5. It’s great for Deceiver since you can still mix Chaos Rune of Kalastor in like RektByProtoss has shown but for a pure Sigils focus Pyromancer I would stick to the Bonewall.

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https://www.grimtools.com/calc/L2JRyYj2

What a coincidence :sweat_smile:

Honestly I don’t know. I’m personally going with Abaddoth’s because I want it different from an all-in sigil build, otherwise why even go chaos instead of vitality. That means a less broken sigil but hopefully more single target damage than your average vitality caster.

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I keep forgetting how recently these new items have been added. My bad.

Yeah if sigil is the main source of damage, I guess you are right. At least for single target on tough mobs since only then you will have the time to stack sigils. Clearspeed should be better with the offhand I guess? The cdr from the off hand is also nice defensively, but maybe the block from the shield makes up for it.

I am leveling with a very similar setup, with riftstone and void-touched ammo as well. You pushed for possesion before the inquisitor skill bar, right? Is chaos kalastor deceiver your next project? It looks exciting. Hope you post it. I might do a budget guide if my build works, but it won’t be a deceiver and will be melee chaos (might fail hard).

If lucky, one can partially compensate for this with a well-rolled Bonewall :wink:.

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Yes, basically priorities are Sigil > Possession > Doom Bolt > Death Sentence > Kalastor. Devotion-wise I think Solael’s WB needs to be rushed because harbingers are a massive pain.

Perhaps. I’ve had so many “next projects” that I can’t promise anything.

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@Ulvar1 was ssf-ing, playing, leveling and satisfied with it.

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Hey there. What about reputation and fractioning? Outcast, barrowholm, kymon/other one, witch gods?

Outcast and Barrowholm I recommend siding with for their augments and a specific amulet from Barrowholm by end game. You also don’t particularly need anything from going against them.

Kymon’s Chosen vs Death’s Vigil is personal preference, go with whoever you like more.

Witch God cults don’t really matter as you are not locked out from the others and still build reputation with all 3. Which cult you select changes the next few quests you do as part of Forgotten Gods main storyline and means you gain a bit more reputation for your chosen cult than the others from doing said quests. You also gain access to that cult’s unique quest at Honoured reputaiton for that difficulty.

tl;dr Go witth whatever Witch God cult you like as well. Personally, getting Solael up for Normal/Elite for the faction head/chest pieces and Dreeg for the weapon/accessory augments is what I would go with if you wanted to be optimal.

Since 1.2 do you have any updated changes or choices since you originally posted this?

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Can someone explain why we’re not upgrading Solael’s Witchfire?
I understand the +% in Vitality is not useful but it gives extra Chaos Damage.

If the answer is just not enough points, then is it if I take points away from another skill, for shits and giggles i’ll say Thermite Mine then max Solael’s Witchfire will it help Blackwater Cocktail and Doom bolt?

Flat Chaos damage doesn’t benefit spells without % Weapon Damage. Only % Chaos does.

(first paragraph)

Then 1 point into Solael’s Witchfire and 12 into Second Rite?
Or is the benefits too minor?

This. The % damage doesn’t warrant this skill point investment when you have thousands %Chaos damage already. Maybe if you desperately needed Vitality resistance. Chaos damage type has even particularly high % Chaos damage due to Abomination and Hungering devotions.