[1.1.8.0] CAPTAIN TURRION - Post Nerf Retal Commando - 5:30 average cruci; SR 90

Pretty sure you can life steal off of RtA if there is weapon damage involved, just curious if that’s the only way though.

You actually can’t. You can only lifesteal from RtA if the skill itself has lifesteal i.e. DE or sigils.

i dont understand why do you use Tip the scales devotion and Agonizing flames… They both have the same RR type and one of them is useless…

It does something besides RR.

Yeah its very good devotion , but in that case you wasted points on Agonizing flames and you could use them on Vindictive flame…

No. Agonizing flames is an aoe RR skill which is applied as soon as you drop your spam skill. It’s one of the best flat RR sources in the game, and if you’re playing a bwc build, which this is, then it is the single best source. Scales is a single target proc and will always be inferior in terms of RR compared to most other sources.

Well its up to you but usually you only need high RR for bosses/nemesis.Normal mobs die fast enough.

And you get 3-4 of them on cruci and SR boss rooms (yes I know aggro abuse exists in SR to almost negate that, but I’m no SR player). And even when there’s only one of those bosses, many of them summon adds that interfere with scales targeting. If you can control which guy the scale proc targets it would be very good as an RR proc but you can’t.

I was also trying to build a rata caster, how good is grenado? it has innate rata from shattering blast

It’s probably okay as a support skill but not as a main skill. aoe is low and cooldown is too high.

yet another so-called build guide with no leveling help for new players to follow to guide them

Nowhere does it say this is a guide. It’s an endgame build and as such these rarely have any levelling info, etc. This is because most are made using GDStash and only speedrun in Crucible/SR, not the main campaign.

Every build post might need to put in “THIS IS NOT A GUIDE” for people to stop complaining about shit.

Not just that. You can’t level a retal bwc commando using retal bwc. That goes for most of the endgame builds you’ll see in GD. This guy is just a case of a noob not yet understanding how different levelling and endgame in this game is. Tho I can’t really blame newcomers that expect GD to be the same as other games.

thanks for replying before me btw. I would’ve talked shit to the guy if I saw it first.

1.1.8.0 UPDATE - Retal on Ulzuin’s Wrath is a nice buff tho it’s not even half as good as Counter Strike. Tried Avenger relic for the lulz and it’s actually on par with Honor as far as clear speed goes. My current fastest run at exactly 5 mins is with Avenger tho I think Honor can do better just because of the burst.

I am trying out your build and liking it so far. for your FAQ part you could add in on who to choose in homestead and which of the 3 to choose?

you can choose kymon or deaths vigil. Which is the 3rd?

Dreeg, for jewelry augments. Homestead doesn’t matter between Kymon or Death’s Vigil.

3rd is the 3 in conclave of the three

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Doesn’t matter. This ain’t a levelling build.

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Hi, I was wondering how BWC’s tooltip looks with Messenger of War and Stone Form like.