[1.1.9.0] Empyrion's Judge - Paladin - Crucible 4:42

Thanks,

From a leveling perspective i can tell you that Judege /Heart of wrath + vire/volcanic stride supported by all the RR make for an easy experience.

But since you say it’ already 100, who knows what’s best :smiley:

Awesome build. Def gotta make and test this one out!

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SR 80 Video of full vire version added. Also pre boss map included to show it can go well through mobs and other hazards

It’s easy and fun to play at SR 80 still. Just a bit of care. Titan plate in chest is the only change.

New boss map look freaking awesome. New to me anyway :smiley: Pic taken after i ended the run and uploaded that is why timer is 0:00. It’s not like that in the run itself :sweat_smile:

EDIT: Added a more damaging version of Sun spot paladin to the thread. that does around 4:26 Crucible

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Very powerful and fun build, i have really been enjoying playing it self-found, though i have needed to use a double-rare Living Ring to patch up resists whilst farming for a better affix/suffix Gargoyle Girdle and Zarthuzellan’s Archive.

Could you explain the ring choices to me? I assume the light’s oath is for the pierce>fire conversion? But the Seal of the Blazing Inferno? Just a good proc and OA?
I have been using combustion band for the elemental resist reduction as i have not had a Light’s Oath drop.

Overall super fun and great for farming. I really think Oathkeeper’s mobility with Vire’s Might is just not fair on other classes!

So I’ve finally found Rune of Blazing Ends (after days of SR farming - it dropped as the last lv 90 augment blueprints…) and imagine my disappointment when I found out that it’s a target-able ability.
Why is the problem? Well, because I like to play with force move toggled on which makes gameplay much more smoother and controllable (VM goes trough enemies instead stopping in front of them) but it makes me unable to target enemies. Do you have a trick for that or should I just stop being lazy and just use force move manually?

btw. this is my character so far:
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4NOLyLa2
Sun Spot version because I dropped 2 Judgment of Empyrion (and 2 more later) while trying to get Zarthuzellan’s Archive (he was dropping the Codex every time).
You could say it’s more judgment-oriented, mostly because it’s self-found and this is what I’ve got. Less VM but 100% uptime of Heart of Wrath and burn from Judgment. Of course I’ll be replacing the amulet with Flames of Wrath (if I ever get one) because 16% RR it’s not something you can’t easily ignore.

I don’t think there’s a trick. Maybe I could figure something out for you using AutoHotkey [Tool] GDAutocaster - play piano builds with ease, autocasting of skills, combos, faster / automatic camera, autohiding of items, centered Inquisitor Seal and more for all games!

For example for to have automatic Force Move on Vire’s Might
you could make Force be pressed automatically while you press Vire’s Might button.
The problem is that it’s too late - when you click it already targets.
A solution to that is delaying Vire’s Might a bit. But it’s not good as well
because it’s your main attack ability and shouldn’t have any additional delay.

So maybe you could make it in a similar way you already have it.
Force Move is On Permanently. But when you press Rune of Blazing button
it’s turned off, then there’s a bit of delay, i.e. 100ms and then you Rune of Blazing is activated.
And Force Move is on back again. Just saying I could probably make something like that
if you don’t like having to press Force Move button.

Why not Force Move on Left Mouse Button (Force Move is on if and only if LMB is pressed down)?
This way you can release it just before you use Rune of Blazing.
But you would need to hold it before using Vire’s Might.

Hey,

So the build Has Vire on pretty low CD to begin with, and it’s not the only spell youneed to cast to do well with this build. It’s not like a pure Vire 0.5 CD build. It does other things in between movement skills

Blazing Ends- The Burn dmg from this rune on this specific build havingso much RR, is absolutely brutal when it crits. If it had pass through like Vire it would be completely broken.

Like you, most of the time i don’t like Blazing ends because it’s not as smooth. But I just use Vire and use Blazing ends on Heroes/Bosses. I just use it when it matters most.

If you do that the build feels really smooth. Personally I had an absolute blast playing it. btw if you use blazing ends right in combo with Vire, you can cover waaay more space than with just Vire.

Blazing Ends, like Blitz, does not have a distance limit. You get a Nemsis at the otherend of the screen, you immdiately use Balzing Ends and run at him. Then you use Vire to set up volcanic stride for the rest of the incoming enemies, Blaze gain, Vire all of them :slight_smile: …and in between you judge and use sunspot.

Hope this helps

Thank you

Yes. It’s a good Poc with massive OA that the build needs and + to Weart of Wrath and % burn Duration which is super important. Combustion ring has none of those, just more RR

Interesting. I actually made a simple macro in iCUE and it worked mostly fine but that thing is basically a bloatware and I lose quite a bit of fps because of it. Delay was somewhat noticeable but it wasn’t that bad.
I’ll try to play around in your software, thanks for the help.

Well, this is what I was doing. But now I have work around not having force move toggled on (which makes VM so much smoother because you go where you point your cursor instead stopping at random enemies and it also allows you to stack volcanic strides under huge enemies like Herald of Stars which normally is not possible) - that’s why I was asking if you have any trick for doing it, instead just holding force move key when doing vire’s might.

True, but Combustion Band kinda opens up amulet slow because you’ll only lose 8% RR instead 16%. Then you can use Shard of Eternal Flame (for more VM) or Tainted Ruby of Gar’Dal (for more Judgment, +1 to Inquisitor skills and life-leeching fire aura). I would even consider Herald of the Apocalypse here.
Proc on the blue ring is kinda meh, because it’s short range and burn duration is not that needed because all your cooldowns are shorter than burn duration on your skills (so you will be re-applying it constantly). I’d say devotion provide enough burn duration for this build. Don’t get me wrong - more is always nice but I don’t think it’s necessary.

IMO, that’s the beauty of this build - medal, amulet and rigs are somewhat flexible slots so you can kinda switch the focus of the build between Vire’s, Judgment and Aura of Censure without loosing much. I’d say Vire-focused variant does the most damage, Censure is more safer, more RR and less ability spam than Vire and others are more meme-y but still work (I’m using Ruby because that’s what dropped for me).
And now I’m curious how Apocalypse memes would perform :smiley:

Just my feel on it:

The 16 RR in AoE cannot be compared to combustion’s low area proc.

The amulet gives far more reliable RR coverage, maiking the build feel even smooother.

Tainted Ruby of Gar’Dal was in my old and slower iteration of this build in another thread. I’m still for the RR Flames of wrath all the way.

Anyway, feel free ofc to make any changes you deem fitting to your play style :smiley:

It can do anything. I even finished in good time with Hyrian Shield and was fun.

Whatever works

I completely agree and I will be using Flames of Wrath when/if I ever drop it :slight_smile: I just mentioned that you have options and it’s not just “use those items or this build won’t” kind of deal.

Funnily enough, I dropped that shield and used it for a bit not so long ago. However, I found Hyrian’s Claw rather underwhelming compared to Sun Spot.
It makes you quite tanky, though.

Maybe it will get % elemental DoT next time, who knows :slight_smile:

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Would someone be able to explain to me the use of seal of blades/might in the main hand/off hand please?

I just started playing and this confuses me.

Seal of Blades - pierce resistance, 5% attack converted to health (the only source of life leech in this build), 8% armor and some flat pierce damage which is converted to fire and used by skills and procs with %weapon damage, although I’m not sure if that amount even matters.

Seal of Might - resistances, physical damage which is converted to fire.

So it’s mostly for resistances + there are no better options (seal of resonance could be nice, though).

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You forgot about Seal of Blades Whirling Blades ‘aura’ that does some damage too thanks to the conversion.
Superfluff would probably take 2 Seals of Might otherwise.

Adding to what was said above in reply to your question, there is also a damage oriented version that I posted up in the build.

just uses 2x Flints for pure damage. The beauty of the build it that it doesn’t need lifesteal, or any other lifesteal gimmicks. Just positioning,

Could I consider using a Fleshwarped Defender? I happen to have one lying around with the double-rare Flamewall and of Wildfire affixes, and even without the affixes it reduces Judgment cooldown and target damage output.

I use one in my Paladin build.

Judgment doesn’t scale as well as Vire’s might when pushed, and you don’t get the benefit of global cooldown reduction from having a off-hand, but it can also work.

I guess, it’s fine for leveling but final build doesn’t need it since Cinderscorn performs the same role.
Reduction to target’s damage is useless since Aura of Censure already does that. Also, Judgment cooldown is not that important - it’s enough to get it down to around ~3s for higher uptime of Heart of Wrath. This build relies on mobility so ideally you should be moving all the time which means defensive aspect of the shield is kinda wasted.
It’s good for leveling, though. Build is not very tanky until level 90 when you get most items in place and learn how to pilot it.

Really like the concept of this pally and i’m lvling 1 too. May i ask how do you put your devotion point ?

Perhaps @Superfluff can comment with a preferred leveling devotion route, but until then, this is what I jotted down:

Something like this should basically mean minimal respeccing:

  • crossroads red
  • jackal
  • crossroads green
  • spider
  • remove crossroads green
  • solael’s witchblade
  • remove crossroads red
  • quill
  • mantis
  • crown (3/5 points)
  • magi
  • hyrian
  • viper
  • lantern
  • crossroads yellow
  • crossroads blue
  • phoenix
  • remove quill
  • torch (6/7 points)

or if you want toad over quill for ADCTH, then something like this works:

  • crossroads red
  • jackal
  • crossroads green
  • spider
  • remove crossroads green
  • solael’s witchblade
  • remove crossroads red
  • crossroads purple
  • toad
  • crown (3/5 points)
  • magi
  • mantis
  • remove crossroads purple
  • hyrian
  • viper
  • lantern
  • crossroads yellow
  • crossroads blue
  • phoenix
  • remove toad
  • torch (6/7 points)

The second route gets you to crown slightly faster as well at the (negligible) cost of respeccing out of one extra purple point. If you want quill instead of toad and faster access to crown, then you can take the second route and wherever I wrote toad, just use quill instead.

There may be better routes for leveling QoL, but I put these out there as routes that start with jackal for total speed, rush RR devotions quickly, and require minimal respeccing along the way to the final map.

Also, in both routes, the order of magi, hyrian, and viper is pretty flexible and easy to change around as long as you remember that you need to get the purple from mantis before grabbing hyrian.

Edit: this guide by @RektbyProtoss may also interest you if you happen to be looking for a thorough leveling resource to fall back on that bears some similarity to your final goal:

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