[1.1.9.6-1.2] Forcewace Trauma Witchblade: All Celestials + SR90 - 1 million damage internal trauma crits

[DeputyChuck]

@tqFan

I’ll share something interesting for me but maybe obvious for others.

I’ve calculated that these mods are multiplicative not additive.

That was certainly not obvious to me!
Thanks!

That puts another perspective on some items, like the Dunefiend set, Vanquisher, and of course the 2 items responsible for the abomination here.

[tqFan]

In the past I was doing research and reading in a few places it’s additive.
Also I was fighting with Adios Ocelot also known as USER_NAME_01 about it on Twitch stream.

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In wonder if DWielding the axes also stacks multiplicatively // w8, I’m dumb you need a shield
I remember Valinov making some weird FoI using both Chaos / Vit transmuter and Aether conuit’s Total Damage mods

[DeputyChuck]

It’s still worth knowing though, 2 chillheart with RoS ?

Edit: And dual Venom launcher (though probably much less impactful)

[The_Coyote]

Thank you for testing - was on my list for today - because with additive boni I was not able to reproduce the numbers - only assuming multiplicative boni reached the in game values

[DeputyChuck]

Also wondering:

Considering that damage reduction reduces not just damage but everything offensive (including RR against you)
Is it possible… that “total damage modified by” also increases other effects ? Like “-x Offensive ability”, or “reduced target’s resistance for X seconds” ?

[RektbyProtoss]

@tqFan

Meaning you get (100%+60%) x (100%+120%) = 1.6 x 2.2 = 3.52 multiplier which is 252% more damage
instead of 100% + 60% + 120% = 2.8 multiplier which is 180% more damage.

very interesting, thx for testing that!

[digao94]

is there a way to build it a little more tankier, especially for 1 hit ko? i really wanna try a dot build, but im not confortable playing on HC with 2.4 DA (even with high armour + phys res). like maybe a battlemage? also more ways to get recovery aswell?

[DeputyChuck]

@Crab_Turtle_2112 I tried Callidor’s tempest, mostly a mix of your theorycraft, with a few tweakes.

It’s ok… on par with all the “also ran” builds we’ve seen in this thread and the other.

Templar, Level 100 (GD 1.1.9.6) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator

Also tried to make anything out of Aegis of Menhir, but there isn,t enough support to even go past theorycraft.

[The_Coyote]

quite some damage loss - but likely a bit more reserves on the defensive side

Battlemage, Level 100 (GD 1.1.9.6) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator

[Crab_Turtle_2112]

Yea Battlemage is the answer for hardcore I think. As I said on the reddit post, for HC you give up some damage for survivability: Avenger of Cairn amulet, DA ring augments like arcanum dust, defensive boots like windshear greaves, trim some point off squad tactics to put in Menhir’s Will. Pump a bit more physique too. I don’t think you want to rely on shield block to survive here, there’s more important stuff to get.

Edit: pretty much what @The_Coyote posted lol

[Crab_Turtle_2112]

Looks good. Messenger of War feels out of place, I think there’s better stuff to get. Maybe unironically go Rat, since you have conversion on the belt

[DeputyChuck]

Wasn’t sure about messenger either, thanks!

I don’t think I’ll spend a lot of time on it though

[DeputyChuck]

@DeputyChuck

Also tried to make anything out of Aegis of Menhir, but there isn,t enough support to even go past theorycraft.

Well, turns out I wasn’t paying attention enough. Thanks to @tqFan for pointing me in the right direction.

Dervish, Level 100 (GD 1.1.9.6) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator

I could probably push it out even more as a Sentinel

The overcaps are absolutely horrid, but this is a rough draft.

[tqFan]

@DeputyChuck

Thanks to @tqFan for pointing me in the right direction.

You pointed yourself, I only thought of Vitality Decay Voidsoul Aegis, I wouldn’t come up with this (and think you can still reach that much %Acid with full Voidsoul)

[DeputyChuck]

Made a few tweaks:

Dervish, Level 100 (GD 1.1.9.6) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator

Not quite as much DoT as FW, but AoM has over 100% crit damage.
If I could fix Fire resist, this one might deserve its own thread

[The_Coyote]

left ring Soul Shard, amulett - Wardstone? Edit: And the two points from Smite and Shattered Smash to Elemental Awakening?

[Crab_Turtle_2112]

Ooooh I might steal this one, this is spicy as hell. There’s a couple adjustments to be made for sure but this has real potential. A couple suggestions

• 2 torch nodes over the 2 right Affliction nodes
• Malediction relic
• Another poisoned viloth ring over shuroth
• Not sure if Aegis of Thorns is worth it

[DeputyChuck]

@The_Coyote

left ring Soul Shard, amulett - Wardstone?

Thanks! That did the trick

@Crab_Turtle_2112

A couple suggestions

• 2 torch nodes over the 2 right Affliction nodes
• Malediction relic
• Another poisoned viloth ring over shuroth

Good call

@Crab_Turtle_2112

Not sure if Aegis of Thorns is worth it

It actually wasn’t!
When I removed it my poison damage AND total damage both increased!

After all these suggestions, I tweaked it some more, and ended up with more damage, more health, and better resist overcaps

Dervish, Level 100 (GD 1.1.9.6) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator

This is what the damage card looks like now:

That’s nearly on par with Forcewave now!

[The_Coyote]

Your duration is longer, so the one hit damage could be higher (takes a bit longer - but good things take time)

[Crab_Turtle_2112]

Main issue with this is that you have to be in range of both Veil of Shadows and Guardians when you cast aegis. Against something like Crate this can be a little…impractical. Sentinel is a little less damage, but should feel much better to play in my opinion. (Also has higher OA, phys res and can 1 point DEE for phys damage reduction).