is that even possible?
i know player scaled pet attacks doesn’t count as attack to trigger item procs
but certain devos does, even if it was applied by a pet
not to mention other item procs can
and it would likely be pretty hard to make an (effective) player scaled pet build that didn’t use “some” player offensive skill, even if it’s just movement to get out of harms way. And i think only 3 player pets have RR, devils, empys, and mines, any other RR application is a player offensive that can trigger the belt, even aura of censure etc
so i’m not just thinkinh how niche it is, but how actually viable it is to have a 0 trigger anguish belt build
and the belt has probably less use on a real pet build/pet scaled pets anyway
I mean no offense but the whole statement about “us” being “the crucible speedrunners community” is invalid for like a couple of years already. crucible stopped being a measure stick, instead what we try to do, is to test builds in all possible environments - cr, sr and superbosses. if you open the top20 thread or even any of the recent build threads (like said Blazerush) you will see videos of all those challenges presented.
thus, we don’t make builds with a thought “oh, I’ll have a couple of buffs so i can sit at 2600 oa and them have 2900 with 'em still”. that’s simply wrong.
this is also wrong. again, if you watch any of our SR runs, you will mostlikely see no res poitions or clusters used whatsoever, unless it’s some deep sr crawling, where you need all possible defences. but for regular SR75-76 farming using potions etc is kinda a movais tone and a sign of a flawed build.
this also exists, as some run naked ex (which is probably the most moronic challenge out there but it’s still possible).
Well yes, builds do use beacons and blessings in CR because it’s a necessity to be able to farm CR in the first place, unlike SR where you can reliably farm it “naked”.
Reflect doesn’t work in SR or CR for that matter.
We are also not using potions in SR 75-76 farming, only for deeper shards.
seems to work for pets with dot devotions on them
i’ve several toons that’s “mysteriously” died to reflect in SR (yes it was reflect because enemies generally don’t slap 6-8k bleed/trauma on you )
i think it’s player scaled pets+devos atleast, since that seems to be around the times where it happen on some heroes
anyways, TLDR?
how many builds does this belt affect?
does it “only”/primarily affect DoT builds?
does it primarily affect tanky builds?
because unless it’s like a “widespread” issue, i don’t really think it’s necessarily that egregious
increase the phys res penalty?
increase the duration of the “buff”?
prevent belt swap from removing the “buff”?
Reflected damage reduction only really matters in Campaign, in SR the only semi-dangerous reflectors are mirrored Aether mages. Pierce resist you can get anywhere else. My point is that Prismatic Diamond or Sanctified Bone gives a lot more value both offensively and defensively.
I am not sure if you looked at our top20 post, because in there @banana_peel explained our criteria for build rankings. And it was SR 75-76 first, then Celestials, then Crucible. We don’t make builds with Crucible blessings/buffs in mind, it has not been the case for years now (unless we specifically want to make a fun gimmick that runs fast just in buffed Crucible, but you will not see those gimmicky builds anywhere near our top20 thread).
Again, in a spirit of friendly competition I offer you compare the best builds from our community and see where “criterias” stand.
I had enough top 20 now. I saw them all but none of them are of balanced res overcap. (which means near 100% in some and near 0% in others). SR 75-76 first? Stop jokking! These unbalanced res overcap setup won’t be able to challenge many boss combos, and maybe Korvaak alone.
I don’t want to hear any more reply either. Had enough of arrogance too.
I’ll quit.
1 sounds good. 2 sounds bad. didnt read the rest of the thread. absolutely hate the belt design, i wish it was simply a universal +1 all skills with some moderate permnanent upsides and downsides.
unrelated question, but it reminds me
where does all the chinese community builds go?
i see very few posted on the crate forum, so if shoppin or y8388 etc doesn’t post something i rarely know of its existence,
and many times they sound interesting or there is chatter of something amazing or tanky that cleared XXX, but never a post for forum stuff to find, sometimes it might lucky to include a bilibili video but not always, and even if there is a video there is not always a grimtools link.
makes me extra curious what special stuff you folks cook up on the other side of the Grim Dawn community since it appears more “hidden” or unaware atleast
By “beyond” you mean surpass? It’s not very clear, sorry.
Do you mean they are currently not good enough to compare? Or too good? Again something is being lost in (google) translation .
But sure, if you are up to it, we can create a separate thread for it and you can send us your optimized builds so we can test them. While you test our top20 stuff. What do you think?
That doesn’t look like a top20 build to me, it looks tanky (although with some questionable decisions in skill distribution and Exclusive skill choice) but I doubt it has enough damage to make it special. Do you have the save file? Because we tested Warborn Warlord with a shield and dual wield specs and our conclusion was that it wasn’t good enough compared to other builds we tested.
Different metas develop in different parts of the world across many games. I think things are getting unnecessarily misconstrued here as personal attacks and becoming needlessly heated. Let’s cool it please.
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