[1.2.1.2] Acid Sentinel - Advice Requested

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Hey all! I have a self-found Acid damage Sentinel (Sentinel of the Three set) that I’d love help optimizing :slight_smile:
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Grimtools: Sentinel, Level 100 (GD 1.2.1.2) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator

I can handle most of Ultimate pretty well, but I run into problems in Gladiator Crucible around Wave 100. I haven’t run SR extensively, and my only experience with Superbosses has been getting absolutely demolished. I figured maybe the community can help me push through those walls! Some specific questions:

  • Obvious upgrade is a Mythical version of the belt, but are there other places where I should be looking to replace gear?
  • Is upgrading my Relic (to either Absolution or Deathstalker) worth losing the Eldritch Ruminations buff from Meditation?
  • Ideally, I’d replace Wraith with Harvetsman’s Scythe for better bonuses, but I would have to give up either Tainted Eruption or Black Blood of Yugol. Is it worth the trade?
  • All resistances are overcapped, but some more than others (Elemental 47 vs. Aether 4). Should I switch up my resistance profile, or is this enough?

Thanks in advance!

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Can’t help you with the build per se, because I don’t play retal builds, but I have noticed some general issues:

  1. In this setup, Blood of Dreeg has 27/16 (remove one point and distribute it elsewhere!), when changes made to the item setup, it will correct itself without your intervention
  2. your pierce, vitality, aether and chaos resist is now not overcapped enough… Ideally 80%+40%, 80%+30% minimum, IMO.
  3. the Apothecary ring should be replaced, e.g. for Mythical Ring of the Black Matriarch, look in the ring section for more inspiration!
  4. About the relic? I don’t know, I (intuitively) wouldn’t replace it. Aura is aura…
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i think absolution relic is far more better for this build imo

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Thanks for the thoughts!

Oh wow, that’s quite a bit to pick up. Time to go play around with Augments, I guess.

Thought here is that the bonus to Acid retaliation outweighs the loss of direct Acid damage?

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i mean you can try them both and see which one fits ur playstyle better.

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Also the ring swap, I would highly recommend. Mythical Ring of Black Matriarch deals acid retal and helps with your skills little bit better.
The drop is random, but relatively often, I would say.

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I’ll keep an eye out for that as I’m farming :slight_smile:

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Your focus should be on retal side of things. In skills and in devos. RF with 134 attack speed and uncapped Retribution hits like a wet noodle. I recommend following my Sentinel of the Three Sent guide. or at least taking some stuff from there (this is how updated version would look Sentinel, Level 100 (GD 1.2.1.2) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator)

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does oa affect the retaliation dmg dealt to mobs ? or affect only the " retaliation dmg added to attack " ?

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It definitely affects the second. As to the first I actually can’t tell, I think it shouldn’t because retaliation triggers when you are attacked. At the same time I am sure I saw some crits/bigger retal hits that have to scale from something. But maybe it was actually rta part.

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hmmmm interesting , thank you

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As far as I know, OA is not that important when being RETAL build. But if the retal build use non-retal skills, to which X% retal dmg is added to attack, you want some OA…

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Oh nice! Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll definitely take a look at your build and steal some inspiration :slight_smile:

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Wondering if someone can help me understand something. I’ve rotated to a more retaliation-focused version of the build, including switching over my devotions. Current new build is here: Sentinel, Level 100 (GD 1.2.1.2) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator

But despite that, I’m still showing 0 Fire Ret from Messenger/Phoenix:
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Is this a bug I should be concerned about? Is there some sort of conversion to acid damage happening that I’m not seeing and isn’t being reflected in Grimtools?

My resistances are also well under what’s being predicted, but I’m prepared to chalk that up to bad rolls.

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I would consult all the numbers of the build when being in actual game. Grim Tools, sometimes doesn’t show up proper numbers, and the numbers provided by GT are always average numbers (so they are going to vary in game).

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You have Fire to Acid on your belt, on your helmet and on your exclusive. You also went full retal in devos but didn’t switch to Aegis spam conduit which is a key to unlocking full power of Sentinel of the Three Sent.

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Aha! Thanks mad_lee. I didn’t realize generic damage conversions worked on retaliation damage. And yeah, I’m not expecting the build to be at full performance without all the pieces, I was just worried about not seeing stats I thought should be there.

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do you have Oathkeeper’s conduit recepie? That’s the piece you need.

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Nah, not yet. I’m running Tomb for it right now

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regular retal can’t crit, it also can’t “miss” thus also doesn’t need OA,
(it’s actually “scaled” by your DA since more DA = less enemy hits)

it does affect rata since that’s just “flat” dmg added to your attacks, and those attacks need both OA to hit but can also crit and scale crit dmg bonus

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