[1.3.0.8-1.3.1.2] Fangs of Asterkarn: In-Depth Mechanics & Testing

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@Gnomish_Inquisition

i don’t know why EoR dmg “feels” bad, i know that EoR sheet dps lies massively, but i swear it didnt’ use to feel as bad despite numbers being misleading(“it’s not phys vs armour eor” after all) .

And people tell me FotB is too OP. Can´t even make EoR good…

[Gnomish_Inquisition]

neither did 287% attack speed and 100% crit Zealot, Level 100 (GD 1.3.0.8) - Grim Dawn Build Calculator

[Kesta_Twala]

TY for the confirmation (and big thanks to mi023 for the insane amount of info).
Yeah, the veilkeeper limit fall under the scope described in the OP where the carbine don’t have a limit, and thus is infinite, unless paired with something with a limit, in which case it become a +0

Now, time to see if this and the new WPS changes managed to un-meme the Belgothian BM.

[grey-maybe]

@mi023

For channeled skills, the base internal cooldown is about 0.3 seconds, or roughly 3 stacks per second. However, the internal cooldown is affected by Attack Speed, not Cast Speed. The higher the Attack Speed, the shorter the internal cooldown. Using AAR as an example:
① At 100% Attack Speed and 200% Cast Speed, AAR generate one stack every 3 damage ticks.
② At 200% Attack Speed and 200% Cast Speed, AAR generate one stack every 2 damage ticks.
③ At 200% Attack Speed and 185% Cast Speed, AAR generate one stack per damage tick.

@mi023

Duration: stacks last for 5 seconds, normally. All stacks are lost when the duration expires. Except for the Berserker’s native Onslaught skill, if another skill receives maximum Onslaught stacks from two different modifiers (for example, Awakened Dreadwalker gives DE maximum Onslaught stacks from both the off-hand and the set bonus), the duration can be extended to 10 seconds. Three different modifiers extend it to 15 seconds, and so on. The Berserker’s own Onslaught generally cannot have its duration extended this way. Berserker’s own Onslaught stacks last for fixed 5 seconds.

@mi023

Special note 1: a modifier with no stated cap counts as 0 when calculating the “sum of caps”. Example: Discordant Gem by itself can let Cadence refresh Arcane Will indefinitely, but if it is used together with Veilkeeper Set , which has a 9-second refresh cap, the total cap becomes 0 + 9 = 9 seconds. (Zantai have confirmed this is not a bug .)

Junk Dawn strikes again. Let’s hope some of these attrocities get addressed.

[mad_lee]

@mi023

Berserker - Leap

• The Berserker’s Leap differs slightly from standard medal-augment leap skills: melee dual-wield can double-hit in human form.

But how does it hit with a shield in a human form? Been looking at Gladiator’s shield for a while now.

[mi023]

Human form: normal one hit with only main hand weapon in all other cases. Only dual wield makes double hit (both hand once).
Werewolf and wereraven form: double hit (both hand once) in all cases.

[mad_lee]

@mi023

Human form: normal one hit with only main hand weapon in all other cases. Only dual wield makes double hit (both hand once).
Werewolf and wereraven form: double hit (both hand once) in all cases.

Thanks. So if Leap doesn’t hit with the shield in human form, why do we have this item, @Zantai

Maybe it should hit with the shield in human form as well?

[mi023]

And this shield has lower base damage than other shields.

[mi023]

Important update.

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Recommendation for Daily Farming

• Legendary items and non-specific MIs: SR 32-33, SR 34-35 or Crucible 180-190 (Ex has little value).
• Epic items: Normal SR 28-29, 32-33 or Challenger Crucible 150-160 (Ex is needed).
• Ashes of Awakening: Ascendant Roguelike Dungeons with 5 Frozen Asters. Change 1 or 2 into Ashes is ok. Multiplayer mode is better.
• Soul Fragments and Echoes: Ascendant Tomb of Archon Barthollem, Forlorn Cellar, Maw of Enaht, Arkovian Docks+Arkovian Coliseum and The Steps of Torment with 5 Soul Echoes. Must be 5. Do not mix in any other materials. Multiplayer mode is better. Other Roguelike Dungeons are ok, but inferior to The Steps of Torment. Note: increase DA to aviod critical hit, at least 3600+, ideally 3800+.

[WhiteWalker]

Concerning eg tomb, I guess because of quick nemesis spawn there?

[pinball]

Hello mi023. Why there are not 5 key dungeons for soul frag/soul echo farming?

[mi023]

Roguelike dungeons are also optional, and more balanced for both ashes and souls. But these locations I listed focus more on souls. As WhiteWalker said, nemesis spawns more frequently at these locations.

[pinball]

Ah you don’t focus on the Dread also (beside Nemesis) as he always gives 2 frags. Guess you disabled it and don’t farm it because too hard on 5 ashes mode?

[mi023]

@pinball

Guess you disabled it

Not really. Some strong builds can hold the Dread, but most cant. His appearance is highly uncertain, sometimes meet him twice in one map, sometimes he doesn’t appear in 30 mins.

[pinball]

Ah I see. Just got him and nemesis at the same time. I can confirm this route is good: Tomb of Archon Barthollem => Maw of Enaht => Arkovian Docks => Coliseum => The Steps or Torment. But after 3 hours I havent got any nemesis spawn in Arkovian Docks lol and I choose friendly with Barrowholm so idk about Forlorn Cellar.

[cmphx]

what does “multiplayer mode is better” mean? as a solo player, do I get a benefit from starting the game in multiplayer and still be alone? or do you mean 2 player party gets more drops than 2 x 1 player?

and secondly, in your testing, how big was the gap in souls/hour between 5xsoul echo vs 3aster/2 ashes? The OA/DA buff is quite significant from 5 echos and will slow down builds alot, especially crit builds.

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@cmphx

or do you mean 2 player party gets more drops than 2 x 1 player?

This one. IIRC, setting multiplayer mode, the game still treats it as single player if no one joins.

[WhiteWalker]

Yes that’s correct - when you’re alone in a multiplayer game you will get eg all aether crystal drops, can pause the game,…

[mi023]

@cmphx

do you mean 2 player party gets more drops than 2 x 1 player?

Yes. Every additional player will drop more items.

@cmphx

how big was the gap in souls/hour between 5xsoul echo vs 3aster/2 ashes?

If only talk about soul fragments and echoes, maybe twice in my tests.

[Uncle_Mac]

I think it’s also worth mentioning that you should choose Kymon as your faction if you plan on running Tomb of Archon + Fort Haron as an endgame activity.

5x echo Zantarin & Shriek are significantly easier to deal with than a roided up Iron Maiden.