hello guys i have a question what is the chance to get double rare gargabols ring from the boss i run it like 70,80 times and i still didnt get one for example from the vinelton shop i got x10 double rare ugdenbogs and bargoll`s roots
a little over 1% iirc from Modal’s post Patch 1.2.1 changes to rare/rare MI drop rates (vendor farming is nerfed)
before latest change Vendors, so Vinelton, had much higher double rare chance than enemy drops, so in 1.2.1 vendors got lowered from little over 2% to straight 1%, and bosses got a bit increased to be higher than merchants.
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So it will cost me 100 runs to get 1 and i need specific rolls…maybe 1000 runs to get one
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Good single rare copy will be fine I’m sure 
; although FoA will bring welcome affix re roll options. We don’t know exactly how it’s going to work but ye.
There’s always gd stash if you’re frustrated and this is a must have which is ruining your gaming experience.
yes, that’s why basically no one includes double rares in builds as “default” approach, let alone specific double rares
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what is gd stash i can trade items?
Infinite stash and also item/character editing options.
Question:
Whats so great about Gargobol’s ring that it warrants someone starting & restarting over & over in hopes of getting it?
depends on your build
but in general it’s stacked with dmg, oa and comes with nativ res, while having a decent likelihood of coming with more+dmg and fluff
if you’re a righteous fervor build it’s pretty hard to pass up because of the +3 and stat load, but not impossible to ignore.
Also being 100% drop means it can be easier to starter obtain than a rng legend like combust/matriarch etc other nice phys/fire ring
“No one includes double rares in builds as “default” approach…”
I am the one! 
you don’t make a GT with a double rare as baseline, to then go hunt for, where build doesnt’ work without, right?
you use a double rare if you have one, you’re not basing your build on theoretical obtaining specific double rares i’m guessing? (since would be borderline impossible to obtain without GDstash atleast)
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Yes, you can craft yourself any item you want with any prefix and suffix. You can totally over power your character or experiment with weird stuff and see what happens. Want to try 100% reduction in skill cooldown? You can do that. You want to try 50 items and see which has the best +% you can do that too. Want to try 100 devotions? You can do that too. You can see how you like that level 100 build you found on the website.
And of course if you over do it and make your character too powerful, you can re spec and redo.
Wait a second - you can’t get in the game, e.g. “Venomfang SOMETHING of the Venomclaw”?
ofc you can, but it’s a 1% likelihood to occur, on a specific weapon, so you’re not forming the build from that baseline right?
you’re forming it with the baseline of X acid weapon with a regular affix combo?
then you might hunt for it, but you’re not necessarily gonna accept expecting to go farm 500-1000 kills to obtain i, and cancel the build if not dropping it in a certain amount of time/1-10-100 hours right?
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I have, for my builds, for every slot, at least two, sometimes three items (BIS, 2nd BIS and 3rd BIS).
E.g. Acid Witch Hunter 2H ranged?
- Venomfang Ugdenbog Bilelauncher of the Venomclaw [Corrosive of Corrosion is also nice]
- Mythical Quillthrower of Dreeg
- Venomlance
this could be considered a reasonable double rare, but again we dont’ abandon the build if we dont’ get it? so the build approach isn’t default double rare; it’s Bilelauncher (with acid/nice affixes)
these would not be the default build approach, right?
One is hard to get, the other is powerball jackpot lottery to get, neither is something we expect to see in a (sensible) build, because of the expectation to acquire.
By that comparison Venom Fang Bilelauncher of Venomclaw becomes darn near easy to obtain, and still isn’t the expectation for most because of the base time requirement(potential)
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Yeah, Corrosive BL of Venomclaw or Venomfang BL of Corrosion is also nice!
ye, and since those are like 50x or more easier to acquire, is then why builds get posted with that.
And the only times we see double rares is either with a “this is what i happened to have in storage” note, or a "this is obviously GDstashed ultra theorycraft"build posts 
which are far and few between
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