So I’ve found a bunch of stuff that has motivated me to swap up my farming burn pyro for a change of pace and thinking about a vit focus.
It is the first time I’m looking into the vit side, and I’d appreciate any ideas or suggestions to improve it. The items in the grimtools build are those that I have found to date. If suggestions to use other stuff, then I’m definitely open to it, if it is in my inventory. I have most all of the components.
I will say upfront that I do not have:-voidheart ring
-fang or M fang of Chthon (wish I did for including Oklaines lantern maybe…)
-another signet of the fallen
Concept so far:
Grimtools Vit melee pyro
Firestrike Vit build. FS 100% fire->vit, global 50% chaos->vit Dark One Set
-Korvac’s Relic for blazing charge (I really like this skill)
-Bloody pox for 15% DR -OA(-225 at present)
FB and Vul for -DA (350 at present)
-remaining points in SoC to test if it is a good heal for this build and playstyle -dunno…have not used this much before.
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-%RR: [INDENT]15 reduced fro black star
-34% vulnerability
-25% Rattosh
-15% Fallen ring
-15% Ravager’s Bite axe
~89% with extra of 15 Reduced R
Healing:
-Turtle shell for buffer HP
-SoC
Other:
[INDENT]-Dark One’s set proc
-Wendigo’s Mark LL proc
-Bat Twin Fangs LL proc
-Lifegiver signet LL proc
-Boneweave LL proc
-3% Bat adtch
-4% Ravager’s Bite axe adtch
-5% Black Star adtch
-6% Lifegiver ring adtch
Rattosh provides -8% to LLR so bosses should be @87% instead of 95%LLR…when it procs.
[/INDENT][/INDENT]
Extra damage:
-Dying god for crit and stuff. Regen might be a bit low to support this on solo boss, tbc if LL and/or consumables can fill the gap.
Issues:
-Seems a bit squishy with armor.
-low attack speed
-need to juggle the resistances a bit more
Unfortunately, there aren’t many autoattacking vitality based weapons with the exception of the wildblood set.
I would swap out FS for BWC + DB. Consider morguul’s mortality, or m. damnation so you can get 100% chaos to vit conversion for DB. I would also get an offhand (smoldering effigy is a craftable one and very good for BWC spam).
But this completely changes the design of your spec, and I worry I might be overstepping my boundaries. 
Regardless, BiS relic is almost certainly eldritch pact. It has the strongest relic proc in the game IMO.
Also, the dark one’s set will convert 50% of that chaos damage to vit.
I was thinking that pox would behave as kind of a vit form of BWC.
It has inherent Vit, -OA, DR, and the reduced Resistance is covered to 15 by the medal. The set gives pox 15 DR for 2s (could be a bit short)
I had thought about the BWC conversion, though. Does pox have a CD?
Ahh, Eldritch Pact! I do have that BP. I’ll swap that in. thx
Swapped some skills around to fit in EP:
Updated for Eldr Pact Relic
No. Pox cannot deal sufficient damage by itself, even with the darkone’s set.
Unlike pox, BWC is an on-ground effect spell. Which means that multiple casts results damage stacking.
In other words, 5 BWC pools = 5x the flat damage dealt.
It doesn’t have a cooldown but it doesn’t stack whereas BWC can if you get multiple fires in the same spot just like Sigil of Consumption.
I’m also hesitant on whether going S&B is best here. I think you’d be better off going dual wield with a Direwolf Crest.
I’ve got a Direworlf. Question is…do I have something for the other weapon. I’ll sort through and see.
I’ll also look at what a venture into BWC means in terms of points. Sadly, the set only provides a ton + for the pox line
Edit: the big advantage of the FS line is that Brimstone provides a good bit of flat vit, with 100% fire and 50%chaos. And BWC doesn’t use adtch…so that gets lost when in BWC spam mode.
Thanks for the help. I see that I have a few options to test out, as I have these in inventory.:
- 1. 2H wildblood Mace maybe with belt
- 2. dual pistol Morguul’s mortality with Empowered Marauder’s Ammo Belt
- 3. dual melee with Direwolf badge. -kind of limited on 1H, but 2 x boneblade of alarcity (or similar) would give 34% weapon speed bump and -20%RR through pox
- 4. I’ll check out BWC spam to see how it works. Depends if I roll that on crafting. If not within 5 or so crafting attempts… might abandon if short on mats.
Biggest issue is weak armor. I’ll see if high DA is enough to mitigate that for Lokkar et al.
(Tryng to avoid the darkblaze set. And also most all of the compendium pyro builds are chaos-focused, simply due to one set. I guess I’m stubborn and will suffer for it
:rolleyes:)
I’ve been running with a version of #2: dual Morguul’s with Pyroclasm mark medal for dual.
GRIMtools Dual pistol vit pyro
It cleans up fast and can tank much with only SoC(leech)/BloodyP(-OA). Bit squishy with low xp devotions at present. SoC/BoD are pretty important to counter the negative regen of dying god - while healing. At least until those devotions get some xp and I move away from the bad habits I developed from a tanky biuld.
(SoC is not even near the same league as Inquisitor runes though, for stay-and-play)
The digging through inventory to find appropriate things to juggle resistances was the most time-consuming and pitha part of the whole swap.
(I also realized that the Justicar set on the fire/burn made me very lazy due to the super armor, and resistances of that set; Near the end, I didn’t even bother using BoD half the time too.)
I’ll build up the devotion xp a bit before giving Lokarr a go. I’ll likely need to pump the DA a bit with this DW build.
*I almost went broke rolling the *&#$ ammy: I first rolled 6 stunjack, 4 vindictive flames, 3 blash shields, a few grenado versions. Wtf rng god? Such nice gifts in the pursuit of a mediocre reward.
I did roll a couple of BwC versions, which I will try out in future as vit bwc spammer (but not really my style…so no hurry).
So far, so good.
Edit: Doom bolt has a point simply for testing with some of the devotion procs and I still need to juggle some skills around to crank up second rite and stuff.
Something’s up with the GT link
Ah, thx. should be fixed now.
Try this. Squeezed in about 15% more damage.
Edited the link: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqK6MM2
This should be even better.
I’ll test that out. I’ve got those items for the swap. Thanks!
Make sure to save a copy of your old toon so you can just roll it back if you don’t like it.
Ahh, I won’t worry about the iron bits. But I do save every once in a while, in any case.
I see you are more of a fan of searing light for this case than I am. Usually if I get in really deep trouble, I’ll use one of those cursed pots from devil’s crossng. But I’ll run for a while and check how the extra 7 - 8% plays out. I don’t spam FB that much during combat, until it runs out(~5-6 secs intervals).
I’m a little hesitant to run without Soc, though. I have found it pretty useful in packs for slapping down a tank point, especially stacked a couple of times. That, with adtch, makes for petty lazy leech play for large parts.
I’ll give it a good testing.
Edit: +13% wpn boost damage from ES is certain to be good, but I find it annoying the burn doesn’t convert. Good tweak, though.
Sigil of consumption is useful in pack situations - yes, but not against bosses due to life leech resistance.
Searing light is useful against everything. 
Why bother healing when you can avoid taking damage?
EDIT: With the damage you’re likely to put out, I don’t think mobs are going to heal you for much anyway. They won’t live long enough on sigil for you to heal from it. Besides, needing to cast sigil in a way limits your DPS as that cast time robs from shooty time.
It just gives a bit more variety in play.
Plus, when Rattosh is maxed it gives 8% LLRR. So a 95% LLR boss is only 87%. Which is still a lot, but depends on the LL numbers.
Idk, have to see, I might have to stick on some +%adtch gear later. Only 4% right now. Trying to avoid losing gear with %RR when running Lokarr and maybe elite mog and stuff. But maybe I’m playing it wrong.
I’ve got a fair bit of practice time before the devotions get some xp, anyways.
I ran a bit with both shoulders/gloves to compare and the damage seems pretty similar. I also ran the numbers to confirm it and they do end up being close with a few skill/res differences:
Dark one’s shoulders + M Riftwarped Grasp glove:
28% Chaos-> vit
+2 possession
+2 wasting
aether resist, stun resist
MBloodfury shoulders + dark one’s grasp gloves=:
+14% AS/CS and % vit (this mostly evens out the damage numbers)
15% DR to pox
4% adtch
elemental resist
Pretty much a playstyle thing, I’d say. So both have good points. I did miss that extra 4% adtch and found myself having to play much more cautious without it and the DR to pox.
Currently comparing 100% armor absorb vs +5%as and 92% armor absorb
Thanks for ideas @sir spanksalot
With the riftwarpped gloves you have a total of 90% (with GG rolls) chaos to vit conversion.
This should make brimstone hit like a truck.
You can also try the bloodfury spaulders and the riftwarpped gloves if you can forgo the OA, HP, etc.
EDIT: Did you try seal of the void too? Because that adds 8% attack speed, and the chaos damage on the WPS will also be converted to vit.
I’m limited to what gear that I have found. I think 86% is my max.
This should make brimstone hit like a truck.
It does. But with the LL I find I don’t have to kite quite so much and this also ends up in more pure shooting.
You can also try the bloodfury spaulders and the riftwarpped gloves if you can forgo the OA, HP, etc.
not sure with this …6% of OA/DA is a lot to find.
EDIT: Did you try seal of the void too? Because that adds 8% attack speed, and the chaos damage on the WPS will also be converted to vit
Have not tried this yet. Will work out the numbers in a bit and see how it adds.
I ended up coming back to a no-greens build. It’s a bit tight on resistances, but nothing consumables can not help, when the dire need arises.
GrimTools current Vit dual pistol layout
-devotions are only 1/2 xp but it seems to leech-facetank most mobs and heros (some bosses).
Works for now.
That’s without a doubt gimping your build IMO. You have no physical damage to convert to vit, so the only thing you gain from seal of blight which seal of the void can’t provide you is +50% vit damage, and maybe 2-4 more flat damage.
You’re missing out on 4% attack speed, and an amazing WPS. Definitely try it out.
Sometimes, stacking the DPS high enough actually allows you to mitigate the amount of DA you’d need. Just for fun, I would try double void + bloodfury shoulders + riftwarpped.
Lastly: It’s totally cool if you want to play a hybrid caster/shooter. But in terms of efficiency, I really feel that you should focus more on attacking. The bulk of your damage comes from flat damage (not DoT’s), and the bulk of your flat damage comes from FS.
Doing anything which decreases the time spent auto-attacking will likewise decrease DPS.