I don’t think I am the first to ask about Ember’thil, but the weapon keeps puzzling me. It is intended for a melee fire Pyromancer and supports both Fire Strike and CoF rather well. If it had cast speed, it could probably see usage as a stat stick for fire casters, but the way the cookie crumbled, this thing wants to be smashed in aetherial-corrupted faces. So far, so good.
Only Pyromancer has no single native WPS. It is possible to scrape some amount of WPS together through itemization, but the fact that it is a 2-H melee makes that a lot tougher. Is it even worth to try? Fire Strike was always one of the better DAR in the past, especially with a 50% Weapon Damage bonus and additional targets hit, but is that still the case or should I rather scrap the idea?
or you simply dont’ do pyro and use it for another mastery with wps, and then stack up
*as far as i remember it’s not doable for 2h melee to get close to full wps without mastery/just via item granted, relic/medal don’t apply etc
Create a build around that item, trying not to “desperately focus” on getting WPS. And I do believe you can create a great (sturdy) build around it. Even though your WPS is = 0%.
I created pair of Acid Witch Hunters, who have 0% WPS and I don’t think they are inferior or crippled.
Lol, yeah I only know cause I also just went through Grimtools and thought the same thing. There’s literally only Seal of the Void, and you can only have 1 because it’s a two-hander. I wish these components that have wps chance gave more on two-handers.
There’s only one way to find out But when you think about it, WPS are supposed to be helping you increase single target damage or provide AoE coverage to your otherwise single target attacks. Emberthil is taking care of the latter by giving you multitarget FS which also features native splash on the skill line, so your AoE should be…I’m not gonna say good but certainly not absolutely nonexistant. That leaves the single target. You’re getting 50% WD on FS, you’re getting a proc with low cooldown and respectable damage, your Chaos is already converted to fire and you have extra flat on Possession. If you can also convert Vit to Fire so you can make full use of Solael’s Witchfire that’d be nice. Depending on what the rest of the build brings in maybe that’s enough? If you’re getting AoE from say CD BWC etc. Might not wind up being on par with full WPS melees but if doing all content is the requirement, even if a bit slower, I’d wager the build would be capable enough.
Yeah I think this makes sense. Not all auto-attackers should be WPS builds. I think the idea works, even if it just ends up needing some tuning. It reminds me of like a Sunherald’s Blade Arc build.
You can convert up to 100% Vit => Fire, or Vit => Elemental, but these items provide mostly zero support to the skills you are using. (The only two exceptions are Horns of Korvaak and Mythical Cindervein Mantle).
With the 50% WD on the sword and 22/12 on FS it gets to 220% WD. If we include explosive strike it can go to up to ~250%-ish WD (ES afaik doesn’t get multiplied by WPS, but since we have basically no WPS here I think it’s fine to clump them together). That’s kinda close to what a build with item-granted DAR (136% WD) would get once multiplied with a 200%ish WD WPS. So probably not as good as a full DAR+WPS combo, but still good enough.
Yeah, my thought was to use the new CDR for BWC ascended affix to supplement the melee damage. It could work certainly, but I am not huge on GD-stashing myself so I’d first have to level a pyro and fully gear it to give it a try.
With transmuter and relevant medal it will be 300% WD on fire strike, but the problem is it’s till not enough, branded shieldbreaker for comparison hits with 860+% WD on every shattering smash and smash procs 70% of the time. And the rest is smite with approx 400% WD
136% is designed for dw, 2h should use Aetherblessed Spear (150%) or Runebinder’s Spellthrower (180%*115%) as the standard. Just like Fire Strike and Savagery has TDM for 2h.
“~250%-ish WD” is unqualified in the current version/in Ascendant difficulty or SR 36-37 even for dw, not to mention 2H.
Here’s my setup. Hp can be higher, but I can’t get aleksander’s of vitality pants, OA is okay, it can crit dread but I would love to have 150-200 more at least. Too squishy to farm HC altar, but excellent for SR 30-31.
But when you think about it, WPS are supposed to be helping you increase single target damage or provide AoE coverage to your otherwise single target attacks. Emberthil is taking care of the latter by giving you multitarget FS which also features native splash on the skill line, so your AoE should be…I’m not gonna say good but certainly not absolutely nonexistant. That leaves the single target. You’re getting 50% WD on FS, you’re getting a proc with low cooldown and respectable damage, your Chaos is already converted to fire and you have extra flat on Possession. If you can also convert Vit to Fire so you can make full use of Solael’s Witchfire that’d be nice. Depending on what the rest of the build brings in maybe that’s enough? If you’re getting AoE from say CD BWC etc. Might not wind up being on par with full WPS melees but if doing all content is the requirement, even if a bit slower, I’d wager the build would be capable enough.