FTFY
Your class is irrelevant it’s your build that counts
Fluff’s build is better optimized so might give you some ideas. I linked it a little earlier in this thread
It’s fun to pretend isn’t it:D
and not just in general. You can pretend other builds that are good and posted don’t exist, make another one on your own, complain about it, put a wig and skirt on poor ol’ Belgothian, call it different names…all the same in the and.
This thread makes me giggle, I think i’ll stop here
Its a proven fact Belgo BMs are at the bottom at the food chain.
I think only worse are Aether Ray warlocks atm.
With the upgrades to many masteries, Nightblade mastery feels truly left in the gutter - they suck almost in everything esp if you compare to Necro or the amazing upgrade to Inquisitor - everything with that mastery is amazing.
Nightblade and Shaman masteries need a revision and update to bring them in line with the rest.
You don’t expect every class to have the same cleartime and survivability. If that’s what you want then you play Mario or something where there’s only one character and build you can use. Imo, balance is not when all classes are equal. It’s when all classes are viable, and this game has good balance right now. Builds that don’t die clear slowly, while squishier builds clear faster. That’s rule of thumb.
Yes i ment BUILD . Not Class when i said it. And yes they should be viable, all classes, but not just 1 build for each that is better than all, balance in equality to me would mean diff builds per class are equal, so that u dont have just one build for every class that all players play cause that is better.
Which is exactly how it is. I cannot think of any combined class that is only played “one way”. Each has different ways to play with their own advantages / disadvantages and it’s also down to the individual’s playstyle (ranged / melee / high kill speed / high defence / pure reflection etc) that means that the isn’t any “Best” that suits everyone for any build. 
I could easily list most viable builds per class if that’s what you want. Best is subjective cause cleartime or tankiness isn’t everything.
Making all damage melee build with low da and uncapped resists then complaining about Belgothian set? Hilarious. One of the strongest sets in-game. Belgo bm got insane single target damage and destroys main campaign without any problem.
Very true ! SINGLE TARGET ! and until u kill each of them one by one almost, cause of the low range of the dmg skills a belgo bm uses, u need some defense also, if u give up dmg for defense, than kill rate slows even more, cause u do less dmg for every single target u kill, very rare, and only trash mobs, are killed 4-5 at a time. So in the mean time, which is a long time, comparing the set to any other set, class or build wise, u need DA. Overall the stats on the set are very few and low in bonus. the sword gives armor% but the chest, shoulders and helm doesnt give DA ?
Tbh the stats on the chest are for a lvl 75 item…
And all helm chest and shoulders are medium armor type, they dont give the max armor that their type can give…
Overall the set need a buff.
Fluff’s build proves the only buff this set needs is for Crucible 170. For MC and even for 150 it’s fine. So the issue with your build is optimization and not the set
Almost everyone in this thread has explained why YOUR build doesn’t work with this set, and yet you persist in stating that it’s the set and nothing to do do with your build.
As you’re so certain you know better then there’s no point talking or trying to help someone that refuses to listen to said help and keeps insisting their build is perfect…enjoy :rolleyes:
No. Once I equip the set and nothing else, I should be able to faceroll 170. :rolleyes:
It’s common knowledge that Belgo only has problems beyonf 150 crucible but shreds anything else. That’s a crucible problem not a Belgo problem (and pierce problem to some extent) cause if you pump belgo instead of fixing crucible then it’s OP in campaign.
Word
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Someone should had invested less on cunning and spirit, as even by investing a proportion 10 phy / 14 cun / 5 spi at level 30 spellbreaker is quite a glass cannon build as i’ve died a few times, although i can revert it on later levels.
(33%/50%/17% roughly is what i did)
- Spellbreaker is one of the squishiest classes in the game. Before mirror and BB.
- Spellbreakers don’t usually want to invest in cunning cause you want cold damage, which cunning doesn’t boost.
- Belgo BM even with almost full cunning still owns campaign and cruci up till 150.
Belghotian Slicer should have am %crit dmg stat on it. like 8-12% or so.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jOxqjV
I have there 3%crit on boots, 12% on amu, 9% on redeemer, 3% on helm, 8% on belt. That is max that the items can have crit on them.
With fighting spirit on i have a max of 76% crit dmg…which is not low…but still not good…
If the Belgo BM has low DA, low kill rate, and low kill range, at least some crit% wouldn’t hurt…
ALso bladetweister ring and belgothian sigil, one of them would also be fair with a crit% stat on it.
And ofc…OLERON constellation …please add 10% crit to it.
The is a lot Belgo needs (I am a big fan of DW pierce builds)
A lot that pierce in general needs.
In campaign it kills pretty fast with the build I posted but in crucible 150+ it gets bad.
Your suggestions are a bit too much. Oleron mod is a good idea. I thought of flat pierce dmg added to oleron so it would get more even with infiltrator belgo. Anyway, Crate have already adresed pierce in the changelog sample and there might be more. We will see
Tbh if it were to choose betwen 10% crit on Oleron Devo, or 10meter range for Blind Fury at 15/15…it would be 100% the double range…it would increase the kill rate better than more actual dmg.
I addmit only the uber places are a lil bit problematic with bm in main campaign, but in comparison to all other chars…the kill rate/range is smallest/lowest/slowest.
I keep looking at belgo set every time i play my bm…and every stat seems underpowered.
At least change to +3 Belgo Shears and + 3 Marko Adv to +3 to all Blademaster Skills to at least feel something.
and that 50 DA and 18 piercing dmg really seem stats for an elite set…not end game set…