Its not that it’s bad. Just that anything a BM can do other combos can do better.
It’s not a good measure of performance but it is the only reliable standard we have.
Is 10 secs to put mad queen or capability to put ulty mog down god enough measure?
I am exiting this thread. Have fun Norzan, mamba, Ceno and JoV
And survive, yes,obviously since those are more practical situations. Surviving crucible also is good measure since, it poses the highest challenge in the game at the moment.
Edit: that and mogdrogen too woops
Yes, yes, all to cunning dw blademaster with defensive setup, can beat gladiator, if you put some point to phys its even easier, if that is your measure…
Anything else? Like Are BMs capable of surviving all the Zantais nerfs since forever? Or are dw BMs capable of killing fabius blindfolded? Or can you play it with only 2 fingers of your left hand?
Actually I do
I agree with this guy. Im sure you can make all combinations beat all contents of the game.
That would be great, but no you cant.
That is correct. But gear and devotions are open to all. So they should not count when comparing base classes.
Which classes do you think cannot beat all game content?
Yes but specific gear supports specific classes or specific combos. Its hard to make top tier build without gear support.
Fundamentally wrong, because their being open to all allows us to evaluate classes based on which classes can make the most out of devotion/gear.
To evaluate classes otherwise is purposefully ignorantly vacuous.
Newer saw to many builds capable of putting ulty mog down, I only succeeded with poison WH and DW BM. Also didn’t ever saw top tier druid build not to mention single class builds,…
Well, not really, seeing as some devotions are focussed on specific weapons or damage types, and not all gear is created equal. Itemisation and devotions are key to making builds successful.
if you ignore +% weapon damage, since most weapons you would use deal physical to begin with…
But NB boosts pierce more than any other mastery, so no, they cannot do the same thing
Ok seems like we can not agree on Blademaster. What do guys think about Spellbreaker? It is another bad idea that looks good on the surface. Sure it has great damage but it is one of the most squishiest classes. One mistake and you are dead. What do you think?
Again I really think that you should learn thing or two about this game.
Phantasmal blade spelbreaker is easy one of the best if not the best caster build.
P.S.
With nice gear and if you have enough knowledge, more or less, any build can be made glass canon or tank.
Spellbreaker are indeed naturally squishy but they make up for it with a ton of crowd control, circuit breakers and other defensive measures. Ring of Frost (and it’s modifier), Flash Freeze, Mirror of Ereoctes, Blade Barrier and Pneumatic Burst are the main ones and there are still more.
Btw, the whole “one mistake and you’re dead” can also be taken as a good thing. Some people like play styles that require a bit more attention than your average left-click tank.
Lol, the only reason you could even argue SB is bad nowadays is because it as a class combo has probably eaten more nerfs than any other combo in the game by far.
And even then? It still breaks the game more frequently. From the CDR breaker which could achieve a 3.6 second Mirror cooldown in Crucible all time (And when a certain modifier was in play, had a 2.7 second cooldown on mirror… literally less time than it’s duration). My fav build got absolutely deleted because it broke Crucible too hard. You could have 4 Blade spirits out, each of which had 75% CDR devotion procs going on, meaning you could potentially get upwards of 30+ devotion procs OF THE SAME DEVOTION on it.
Ultimately, I understand SB was broken, I just wish they hadn’t knee-capped it, and instead put what we far more need in this game, a CDR cap to restrain it in an absolute fashion. As is, Spellbreaker is still literally 100% unkillable if you play it right, it’s just a matter of slower kill speed if played the literally unkillable way. Who needs HP/DA/anything when you have 100% uptime 100% damage absorption?