Best and Worst classes

>Saboteur
>Better than Blademaster for survival and damage capability
>Warder
>EVER outclassing Blademaster for damage capability

No, seriously, how the hell have you been building your Blademasters?

Jesus christ I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

Show me your goddamn numbers.

I asked a few, 17 said a BM is great, 12 agreed, only 3 said it was mediocre :wink:

What does Soldier add to a dual-wielding Nightblade in terms of survivalibility aside some hit points? Nothing. Demolitionist gives Vindictive Flame and Blast Shield. Infinitely more useful for a squishy dual-wielder.

Warden has 4 on procs for a two-weapon builder up from 2 and lots of base physical and lightning damage. Shaman has ranged aoe through Primal Strike and Grasping Vines both of which deal physical damage.

Commando again has Vindictive Damage and Blast Shield. Very tough to kill together with Menhir’s Will. There is no skill Nightblade has and Soldier does not if you are a two-weapon user. You can easily substitute Blitz for SS and Forcewave or Blade Arc for AA if you want aoe.

Numbers mean jack shit. Ingame perfomance is what matters and Blademaster has a very high ingame performance.

And it’s not like Soldier gives NB Oleron’s Rage, Field Command and overall more tankyness. Oh wait.

I am absolutely dead serious. Show me the math you actually did that proves Blademasters are mid-tier at best. None of this arbitrary “I decided that there’s no mechanical synergy between Soldier and Nightblade for REASONS” stuff.

I can give you a huge list of reasons Blademasters are top-tier or close to even with subpar gear.

Blademasters have access to Oleron’s Rage.
Blademasters have access to Cadence and thus Fighting Form/Deadly Momentum.
Blademasters have access to BOTH Soldier’s and Nightblade’s generally favorable-for-melee mastery stat pools.
Blademasters have access to Soldier’s fantastic passives and can easily get 100% WPS coverage.
Blademasters have fantastic gearing options (if you can get said gear).
Blademasters have good-to-outright-fantastic Devotion options.
Blademasters can EASILY support pure phys, phys/bleeding, phys/pierce, pure pierce, pierce/bleed and basically any combination supported by Cunning (which they get plenty of). Phys/IT, pierce and bleed are all fantastic damage types that are rarely resisted in huge amounts. Blademasters can even do Cold reasonably well with proper gearing. Might even be able to do Acid/Poison, though not as well as a Witch Hunter.
Blademasters get access to War Cry/Break Morale as a solid phys resist shred, incoming damage reducer, skill-lockdown ability and devotion proccer.
Blademasters get access to both Blitz/Blindside AND Shadow Strike, on TOP of the movement speed boosts from Pneumatic Burst and Oleron’s Rage. They’re so mobile it isn’t funny.

Veterancy - to reduce armor requirements
Decorated Solder - elemental resistance and slow resistance
Scars of Battle - Bleeding resistance, increase in Physical damage absorption, reduced stun and freeze duration

Field Command + Squad Tactics - increase OA and DA; and increase attack speed.

There are some. :slight_smile:

ok, by now you have proven that you know nothing whatsoever…

Oleron’s Rage
Field Command + Squad Tactics
War Cry + Break Morale

for damage

Tons of passives for survival

Other than maybe 2 or 3 shield skills, there is nothing that does not help a DW Nightblade…

You know by your logic my DW Pure Melee Warlock is better than a Blademaster since i have Solael’s Witchfire and Mirror of Ereoctes

The purpose of having two masteries is making up for the disadvantages of your first class while making your main fighting strategy stronger.

Nightblade is an awesome class. Soldier is an awesome class. However Awesome + Awesome is not always Awesome. Because the classes are too similar. Their strengths do not add up, however their weaknesses do.

Blademaster has bad ranged game and is terrible against monster that return damage. It has mediocre survivalibility especially if you are dual-wielding.

Its strength comes from Devotion skills which are unpredictable. On proc weapon pool easily goes over 100% making your choice skills less likely to fire off.

Redundant is the word that describes the Blademaster.

If you have Cadence it is great at ranged, not that you use it much anyways…

Redundant is the word that describes the Blademaster.

Nonsense is the word that best describes your posts

I only have one question. And just answer this rather than getting offended by it.

Have you actually made a build that has completed Ultimate including the side quests (The Hidden Path is a side quest)?

Says mister “I know more about game design than you do”. The purpose of two masteries is literally whatever you choose it to be.

Because you said so, of course.

Alright, I’m calling it. You’ve never even PLAYED a Blademaster.

>Strength comes from Devotion skills
>not the amazing amounts of damage synergy

>Devotion skills
>unpredictable

What are you even saying.

Fixed that for you.

I’d say Blitz and Shadow Strike make up for that. :wink:

Mediocre survivability? Tell that to my Blademaster who can facetank every Nemesis with an offensive setup.

I’m out of here. There’s a difference between having an opinion and saying something outright insane. Blademaster is not a mid tier class, it’s easily a top tier class.

10 pages of this? how long can it go? One person claiming BM is terrible, how many claiming the opposite?

Hold on to your opinion but try building a dual-wielding Saboteur and a two-weapon user Warden. Then make the comparison yourself. Nothing I can say can persuade you other than your very self.

Guys i think he’s in denial because a DW Blademaster can outclass any other class combination in terms of both damage and survivability.
Even i had a hard time digesting when i saw a BM in action for the first time, I was like “Is that even possible?”

Part of my brain is saying “THIS GUY IS A TROLL. HE’S TROLLING.”

Another part of my brain is going “Idk, man. Internet.”

And yet another little part of my brain is reciting an Albert Einstein quote over and over.

Poe’s Law was both made and broken by the Internet.

And this is the point where we all realize that we all have our opinions and that’s ok.

Then we all ride off into the sunset and live happily ever after! :smiley:

I did make a DW Saboteur and a 2H Warder. Blademaster still outperformed them damage wise and it’s almost if not just as tanky as those two.

So yeah, Blademaster is a top tier class. Just accept it.

At this point i’m not actually sure if you are being serious or just trolling. So i’m done here.