Build 30: Balancing Pass and Bug Fixing

[system]

Interesting changes all around.

I still don’t like the idea of Exclusive skills, but I think I’m warming up to them…if only slightly.

Overall a lot to test and digest for now, though I will say one thing from first impressions - could the animation for Devastation be reverted to the old version (punching the sky and pulling your fist downwards)? The current version uses the Callidor’s/Olextra’s animation which looks a little awkward and makes it difficult to tell if the skill has gone off yet since the meteors are delayed - doubly difficult if you also use the above skills since it’s easy to mix up the animations.

Otherwise, new Devastation is pretty cool.

[Somerled]

If only they hadn’t broken it at the same time.

RIP Bloody Pox I loved you very much. See you next bug fix <3

[TomoDaK]

I lost 21% total damage, 1% OA, and 10% ele resist on my Badge of Mastery. I would like a refund please

[Stg]

I love Exclusive skills.

Also, did this patch do anything with the graphics?

[MeatHeadMikhail]

Here we go, the beginning of the end - balancing an ARPG where everything is supposed to be OP. Nice changes though!

[Stinklurch]

R.I.P. Squire’s Handguards
R.I.P. Use of Blocking

Blockchance before the patch : 97%
Blockrecovery before patch : 1xx%

means = tanky (looks like a Hack’n’Slay Blockchance)

now after the patch it looks like this

Blockchance : 76%
Blockrecovery : 51%

means = dead (looks like an MMORPG Blockchance)

Now u can remove Targos Hammer nobody will ever miss it. Bye bye Fakehammerdin
Will we ever be able to have a full block again ?

[jhonbanting]

so this patch is not live yet? in february?

[DeMasked]

so this patch is not live yet? in february?

It’s live, just means that there will be a B31 for February. Perhaps a hotfix after B30 if there are major issues.

Technically this is B29 Hotfix 4 but due to the large amount of ego it decided to go ahead and take B30’s title instead.

[Stg]

It’s live, just means that there will be a B31 for February. Perhaps a hotfix after B30 if there are major issues.

Technically this is B29 Hotfix 4 but due to the large amount of ego it decided to go ahead and take B30’s title instead.

Considering how many bug reports have popped up in the last four hours, I’m sure we will see a hotfix pretty soon. Some people can’t progress into Elite, some people can’t turn in bounties, some are crashing, etc.

Edit: I’m seeing a few reports of people saying the game is smoother for them now and the graphics look a lot more crisp to me than they did previously. Could just be my imagination, but I’m also not getting at lag at the top of Fort Ikon like I was in B29.

[TonyDanza]

Considering how many bug reports have popped up in the last four hours, I’m sure we will see a hotfix pretty soon. Some people can’t progress into Elite, some people can’t turn in bounties, some are crashing, etc.

Edit: I’m seeing a few reports of people saying the game is smoother for them now and the graphics look a lot more crisp to me than they did previously. Could just be my imagination, but I’m also not getting at lag at the top of Fort Ikon like I was in B29.

Yeah so far I haven’t noticed any lag when I rotate the camera (used to happen occasionally in B29 and before). Only thing I’ve had gone wrong is the occasional crash at the main menu.

[Gumshoe]

I’m not understanding your statement probably, but I’ll do my best to answer.

You were able to beat all of those games with sub-optimal builds. In fact short of going out of your way to avoid AOE skills, most of them are pretty much impossible not to end up as an overpowered beast. As far as BiS gear is concerned, most of the games you didn’t even need it to stroll through bosses like a gate made of loot. A most recent example of this is Diablo III where prior to build 2.4, you could get the best set for you class in under 3 hours if you cared to. I have not played 2.4, but the patch notes made it sound even easier these days.

If you’re trying to tell me you don’t think all builds should be viable, then that’s entirely your prerogative. I feel Grim Dawn’s strength as a game is how diverse you can build your characters however, so making more builds viable is appealing to me.

If you’re trying to say more builds should be viable without nerfing the overall content of the game, then I completely agree. Problem is for build ideas like frost mages and such, there can be plenty of gear to buff your cold damage but the skills as a whole are just bad, and the main strength of freezing enemies is lost on bosses. In that case they would have to do more than release balancing patches. They’d have to add in entirely new skills either through items or skill tree additions.

The main point of my post was simply to point out that no matter what they do, difficulty is going to come down to the player. ARPGs are easy in the sense that you almost have to try to make a character fail at completing content, whereas it’s very easy to make a character that will clear it with a little work if not effortlessly.

Thanks that clears it up. Yeah essentially I was seeking clarity in a roundabout way that you were relating to balance of build viability not just catering for the ‘underperformers’ just to make everyone happy, but the underperformers ‘fixed’ to fit the balance.

[Trapizium]

All I kept hearing about was how this patch would bring balance to the game, especially Ultimate. What I thought would be for everyone, I was sorely mistaken.

I lost 4.5k dps and 500 health on my Dual Blades Blademaster.

The only real nerf I can tell comes from less procs per second due to atk speed capped at 200%. Might want to look at your gear and change a few components around so you are no longer over capped.

That’s the only real reason your seeing a stat sheet nerf and maybe a minor procs/second nerf.

P.S. I also play a DW blademaster

[Evelot]

Since this patch dropped, I’m not longer getting quests from Ulgrim. Its a bit of a problem since I was at the Rescue from Blood Grove quest from Homestead, and since I’ve completed that there is nothing. Everything else is tied into him moving to Fort Ikon and I’ve cleared everything up to and including that, but I can’t really progress without him now.

[system]

Just me that got a decent amount of spirit decreased? I had like 746 or something and now I`m sitting at 655.

[Zantai]

Since this patch dropped, I’m not longer getting quests from Ulgrim. Its a bit of a problem since I was at the Rescue from Blood Grove quest from Homestead, and since I’ve completed that there is nothing. Everything else is tied into him moving to Fort Ikon and I’ve cleared everything up to and including that, but I can’t really progress without him now.

I would have to see the character. You can send it in to [email protected]

Your save is located here:
C:\Users\USERNAME\Documents\my games\Grim Dawn\save\main_CharacterName

I will need the entire _CharacterName folder, so please zip it up along with its contents.

[Evelot]

I would have to see the character. You can send it in to [email protected]

Your save is located here:
C:\Users\USERNAME\Documents\my games\Grim Dawn\save\main_CharacterName

I will need the entire _CharacterName folder, so please zip it up along with its contents.

Thank you, and its sent.

[Amonthar]

I will give credit where it is due:

The Nemesis pet is amazing now. It does not die in three hits on Ultimate. This pet is amazing for a Nightblade.

[system]

how the fuck they change clairvoyante like that it suck the only set the let you play your way now got pigon hole on arcaniste with them

[RxJunkie]

Great job on the new build and thanks as always!

RIP 100%/100% Block Chance/Block Recovery…

RIP old map. The new one is really too bright and cheery for GD. Any chance to tone down the colors or revert to old map with Devotion Shrine notices?

Crate, you guys need to work on your timing. Although this is a pretty sweet birthday present for me tomorrow, your build releases have not been great for me lately: B28 came out the day I went out of town for 5 days… B29 came out and I couldn’t touch my PC for 4 days due to Christmas stuff and now tomorrow’s my birthday and I’m leaving Friday for 8 days on vacation…

ARGH! :furious:

[MaxWar]

I believe the base movement speed was increased a bit.

I think the same, seems a like a pretty descent bit too. However I cannot see it in the change log.

I was wondering if I was hallucinating or something. But really my melee guy, who already has good move speed boost is just zooming through the map now. Cant say I dislike it, Grim dawn is the Zdoom of arpg, haha.